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I doubt putting the mesh grille will cause over heating issue. After all, the GT3 has a mesh grille right from the factory.

GT3 and GT3RS and Cayman GT4 have the vent on top Macan does not, maybe that is a factor?
 

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GT3 and GT3RS and Cayman GT4 have the vent on top Macan does not, maybe that is a factor?
Those vents let air OUT and impact the aerodynamic profile of the car -- they reduce where air gets trapped.

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Where is the top vent? Just before the front hood? I sure can cut one on my Macan to use more cold air. :laugh:
 
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Can you tell me more about the mesh, where to get it and the cost?

Thanks!
This is what mine looks like after 20 months of ownership


since nobody (aftermarket accessories shop) makes one for Macan, if you are handy, then you can buy a sheet on the net, something like this .... cut into the size mounted it behind the bumper, therefore, you will have to take the lower bumper off first. As for the mounting, there are some suggestion of using 3M adhesive tape but the proper way is to use mounting clip with tiny holes drilled into the back of bumper.

Woven Wire Mesh Grills Are Perfect for Car Radiator Grilles Vents

Ebay sell all kinds of mesh grills, such as these plastic sheet version.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/universal-mesh-grill-black
 

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since nobody (aftermarket accessories shop) makes one for Macan, if you are handy, then you can buy a sheet on the net, something like this .... cut into the size mounted it behind the bumper, therefore, you will have to take the lower bumper off first. As for the mounting, there are some suggestion of using 3M adhesive tape but the proper way is to use mounting clip with tiny holes drilled into the back of bumper.

Woven Wire Mesh Grills Are Perfect for Car Radiator Grilles Vents

Ebay sell all kinds of mesh grills, such as these plastic sheet version.

Universal Mesh Grill Black | eBay
Thanks for the quick reply, I will take a look how easy the bumper is to remove... I have mesh grills on the car now, it was amazing how much condenser fin damage was done in only 8500km!
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, I will take a look how easy the bumper is to remove... I have mesh grills on the car now, it was amazing how much condenser fin damage was done in only 8500km!
One local shop quoted me about a few hundred $ for labor only as he already said the bumper needs to come off which would be min. 1 hr charge on and 1 hr charge off. The mounting labor will probably be another 1.5 -2 hrs. Therefore, the best case estimate would be 4 hrs labor @ say $80-$100 per hr (in Canada) + I buy my own parts (mesh grill sheet of my choice).
 

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How many members does the Macan forum have? Hundreds? I didn't hear any report of catastrophic radiator damage due to debris impact. Treated as insurance, this doesn't seem to make any financial sense. You'd be paying a $900 "premium" to insure against a few $k event that has a sub-% likelihood to happen. Unlike e.g. the oil pan damage from impact reported on some M4's, even if damaged the radiator is unlikely to take out the engine, or cause total loss. If the goal is to keep the radiator look like new, knock yourself out.
 

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How many members does the Macan forum have? Hundreds? I didn't hear any report of catastrophic radiator damage due to debris impact. Treated as insurance, this doesn't seem to make any financial sense. You'd be paying a $900 "premium" to insure against a few $k event that has a sub-% likelihood to happen. Unlike e.g. the oil pan damage from impact reported on some M4's, even if damaged the radiator is unlikely to take out the engine, or cause total loss. If the goal is to keep the radiator look like new, knock yourself out.
As a DIY project it will be nowhere close to $900 and lend a bit of a unique look for those who like it... so thanks for the permission to carry on! ;)
 

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How many members does the Macan forum have? Hundreds? I didn't hear any report of catastrophic radiator damage due to debris impact. Treated as insurance, this doesn't seem to make any financial sense. You'd be paying a $900 "premium" to insure against a few $k event that has a sub-% likelihood to happen. Unlike e.g. the oil pan damage from impact reported on some M4's, even if damaged the radiator is unlikely to take out the engine, or cause total loss. If the goal is to keep the radiator look like new, knock yourself out.
Point well taken, I'm the OP but I still think there can be damage inflicted that "may" affect performance (heating cooling) that may or may not be be that noticeable. But again, I have never seen or owned a car that had did not have some sort of protection against such damage. Second, I would never pay 900.00 for the mesh grill, but the fact that it even exists as an option and that virtually every other car in the world has one tells me it should have been on there in the first place.
 

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This is a fairly common issue on the B8/8.5 Audi S4's with the front mount water/air heat exchanger located in front of the radiator. Many have had road debris kick up and put a small hole in the heat exchanger thus requiring a replacement. I debated it when I updated to a much larger front mount heat exchanger on my S4 but the material seemed much stronger than the stock one so I didn't run the protective screen and haven't had any issues. I was looking at the inlets on my Macan turbo and I just don't see it being a common problem but something certainly is possible... Once the weather is nicer I'll be taking the bumper off to have a look at the setup much closer so I may decide to do it them but we'll see...
 

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I did one on my 997.2, relatively easy diy, but I don't think is needed. I'm not doing it again on my 2 Macans or my Turbo S.
 

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Point well taken, I'm the OP but I still think there can be damage inflicted that "may" affect performance (heating cooling) that may or may not be be that noticeable. But again, I have never seen or owned a car that had did not have some sort of protection against such damage. Second, I would never pay 900.00 for the mesh grill, but the fact that it even exists as an option and that virtually every other car in the world has one tells me it should have been on there in the first place.
Bob M, just to clarify -- it isn't Porsche that offers the Macan mesh option. It was your DEALER!! Whole different thing....in fact, almost all the dealers I know never push somebody else's aftermarket product.

And the post that talked about the two-year search for such an option begs another question -- if not one of the hundreds of aftermarket guys and Porsche itself still does not make such a product after TWO whole years of financial opportunity, might that still indicate the lack of need and just maybe a wisdom that says it's NOT such a good idea?

I know it's my opinion, but I still don't know why weekender DIY'ers have more insight than the billions of dollars that they think is being so obviously missed by so many professional others?

And it's a little different approach than just making something better because it already exists, but in creating something that never was because those "idiot manufacturers" apparently haven't learned much in the last 67 years of Porsche manufacturing?

Hope this doesn't sound like a flame -- I am just truly baffled in areas like this...
 
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I think the mesh guard pushed by OP's dealer is aftermarket stuff. Dealers routinely sell non-OEM aftermarket stuff, such as Suncoast Parts.
 

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Bob M, just to clarify -- it isn't Porsche that offers the Macan mesh option. It was your DEALER!! Whole different thing....in fact, almost all the dealers I know never push somebody else's aftermarket product.

And the post that talked about the two-year search for such an option begs another question -- if not one of the hundreds of aftermarket guys and Porsche itself still does not make such a product after TWO whole years of financial opportunity, might that still indicate the lack of need and just maybe a wisdom that says it's NOT such a good idea?

I know it's my opinion, but I still don't know why weekender DIY'ers have more insight than the billions of dollars that they think is being so obviously missed by so many professional others?

And it's a little different approach than just making something better because it already exists, but in creating something that never was because those "idiot manufacturers" apparently haven't learned much in the last 67 years of Porsche manufacturing?

Hope this doesn't sound like a flame -- I am just truly baffled in areas like this...
Ok, just for clarification, I mentioned that my dealer (actually Sales Manager) mentioned this to me when I was buying the car. I was surprised when he did - but not because they make a lot of money on those extra protection items and they expect to grab ya, - I expect that type of nonsense.
Actually, a few of the items were aftermarket - grill, EXPEL and that interior/exterior protectant (forgot the name) and the dealership gets a piece of the action. My surprise was that ANY CAR would not have some type of radiator protectant, be it a baffle or grill or whatever. I know this grill is aftermarket and not a Porsche part, but I will repeat, this type of protection should be on every car, standard.
Love my Macan, but just because Porsche does not offer it, doesnt mean its not a good idea. Another example, my car is 63K list with Nav and Infotainment and does not have Voice Commands! Really?
So to make a call I need to grab my Iphone and use that instead of a button on the wheel, or to enter an address or get directions, once I'm on the road, I either have to stop and pull over (inconvenient) or use the touchscreen on the dash (dangerous). Not good choices on a Ford Escort and not a good on a Macan.
I liked my 2 Q5's but where it fell short, it felt short. Same here.
 

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I see bob you are pretty strongly opinionated.
 

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I see bob you are pretty strongly opinionated.
Well, only when it comes to things I feel certain about.
Yes, I'm new to Porsche. I am the guy who was on the fence about buying one, because even with the S version, was pushing the limits of my financial comfort zone. Sure, I could have pumped out another 15k and still manage to put food on the table, but maybe I would not sleep so well.
I won't , nor have the desire to, push the car to the limits. I have no desire (nor did I in my other Q5's) or know how to VAG/retune the Macan. I can appreciate the Porsche enthusiasts out there who really race their Macans and on a performance level are in heaven; that's just not me. I may join the NJ Porsche Club, to learn how to better ride and enjoy my Macan, but in the NYC/NJ area, there simply aren't many areas to open it up; way too many troopers out there.
I love the sportiness/tightness, the lines, the quality of build, a bit of the (not for too much longer, with the 4 cyls coming this summer) uniqueness and a list of other features, but that doesn't mean I will not be able to be (somewhat) objective and say "whoa, are you kidding me?"
So yeah, in these 2 areas (not the most significant things to be sure) no radiator protection and lack of Voice Commands, Porsche fell short.
 

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So you really believe Porsche designed and manufactured multiple models/years of performance cars with inadequate radiator protection?

In your opinion, should there be a recall for this?
 

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So you really believe Porsche designed and manufactured multiple models/years of performance cars with inadequate radiator protection?

In your opinion, should there be a recall for this?
Nope, no recall needed - not at all, I'm saying that most all the other Porsche models in the showroom had them, Macan's did not. I looked around on the road and in my parking lot recently and saw lots of Audis, BMW's Lexus, MB's and plenty of other more "average" cars and have yet to see a radiator so exposed. Another poster mentioned his Audi had some damage. Perhaps, there won't be any such damage to the Macan radiators (hopefully).
The SA couldn't answer why the Macan didn't have one, but did he did mention that I could buy the grill - which at $900.00 was ridiculous. I did not think it enough of a big deal to either buy the grill, nor not buy the S. In the larger picture, it's small stuff. All I'm saying is that I think it should be on there in the first place.
 

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some of us still need this type of mesh grille ...

search still going on for two years now and nobody makes a custom one for the Macan
Yea I already checked with Rennline last year and they indicated that they had no plans on making one for the Macan....
 
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