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Question about USA resident buying Canadian Macan Turbo

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Hey everyone,

I am about to put an offer on a used 2017 Macan Turbo w/performance pkg. The car has 16k miles on it and looks to be in great condition. White with all the features i want (Carbon pkg, Adaptive cruise, CarPlay, PASM, etc). Owner already has the car in USA.

Questions:
- Aside from the 2.5% duty tax and paying local USA state tax, is there anything else I need to worry about? (it will be a cash deal, owner has title in hand)
- Is there any major difference between the Canadian and USA Macans? Do the canadian ones have metric units for the speedometer (KM/H instead of MPH) Any other differences?
- Anything in particular I should ask as I make this purchase?

New car warranty will expire 9/2021 and is transferable.

Final sale price is $62,500. Good / bad deal?
Specs below:
Porsche Macan w/Performance pack
- Carrara White Metallic
- Black leather pkg with partial leather seats - Sport exhaust in black
- power steering plus
- SportDesign in black w/o side skirts
- Carbon interior pkg
- Surround view cam
- Tinted LED tailights
- Adaptive cruise with PAS
- 21" 911 Turbo design weels
-Connect plus
-Porsche Intelligent Performance
-Monochrome black exterior pkg
-Premium pkg
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$118CAD x .75 (approx).... $88.5 build in US$$
Just a quick follow up

- Getting a Letter of compliance from Porsche (need this to register in US).
- Porsche of Buffalo NY was happy to schedule time to take a look at it as I do paperwork with the current owner
- Spoke with US Customs. Simple process, bring bill of sale, Ontario registration, and drivers license. Pay duty and get paperwork (including EPA and DOT stuff)
- Go to DMV get title and plates
- Go to Department of revenue, pay state tax

Final purchase price $62,500 USD
Original MSRP was $118 CAD ~ $88.5USD. Interestingly enough, the same build in the US would have been closer to $100k USD if not slightly higher.
Similarly built used Macan's in the US range from $66k - 70K depending on mileage. So maybe its not a steal, but, its low miles, has all the features I wanted and should be a fun ride for 2-3 years and then I'll sell it. Mainly because Im confident we will need something bigger.
Just curious. Did you buy a new or used Porsche from a Canadian dealer? I contacted a Canadian dealer a year ago about ordering a new Macan and was told flat out they couldn’t do it.

CPO - used...


;)
Glad to hear... yes, it's that easy and the boys at the border are very agreeable..& helpful.

You'll be fine......
Another plot twist.
I just received the letter of compliance from Porsche. It sates that the car is in compliance with US Emissions standards, but it does state the following

"If not already completed, in order to bring this vehicle into compliance with the U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety standards (FMVSS), the instrument cluster and vehicle labels must be replaced with respective U.S. Versions"

Replacing the cluster is a nonstarter for me. Its ~$4,500 at a US dealership.

Scenario: I go to the US Customs office and let let me proceed without making it an issue. In which case I am good and I take my chances years later in resale. Though I can't imagine people really care about the analog display, its alll about the digital. OR US Customs says I have to replace the cluster, in which case, no deal and I have to find a way home.

Or. I just kill the deal now and just keep dreaming about a Macan.
As long as they can switch the digital display to MPH - it works

I had the reverse problem entering Canada,,, all KMH in Canada
we just flipped the display to KMs from MPH

shouldn't be a problem...

resale ?? another issue
you may be passing on your saving to the next guy !!
2017 Macan Turbo - Gauge face swap/replacement - need help

Hi everyone,
I am buying a Canadian built Macan Turbo, which has the speedometer in KM/H. I know all the digital gauges can be changed to MPH. There are a number of forums that talk about swapping out gauge faces mainly to change color of the speedometer and tach.
Questions:
- How hard is it to swap gauge faces on the Macan? Anyone have steps or a process?
- Can I swap my faces for a new color and MPH markings? If so, will there by any necessary changes to the car itself?
- Would this void the warranty on the Macan?
- Any recommendations on shops or vendors that sell the gauge faces would be amazing.

Thanks!
There has to be a way to replace the gauge faces. I see pictures of folks online doing color swaps. Why couldn't you just do a face swap that has metrics listed in MPH vs KM/H? Anyone know of vendors that do that? Only one I found was this: https://www.fvd.net/us-en/F95641200...peedometer-black-tachometer-grey-kph-pdk.html
Maybe try to get a letter from "U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety standards (FMVSS)" stating that as long as the Digital display is in Miles vs kilometers, you are in compliance, even if the analog display is still in kilometers. (to help with future resale)
I agree - if you can swap out colors.... it's the same thing.

Sounds easy
Have you asked the Buffalo dealer yet ?...
Hi everyone,
I am buying a Canadian built Macan Turbo, which has the speedometer in KM/H. I know all the digital gauges can be changed to MPH. There are a number of forums that talk about swapping out gauge faces mainly to change color of the speedometer and tach.
Questions:
- How hard is it to swap gauge faces on the Macan? Anyone have steps or a process?
- Can I swap my faces for a new color and MPH markings? If so, will there by any necessary changes to the car itself?
- Would this void the warranty on the Macan?
- Any recommendations on shops or vendors that sell the gauge faces would be amazing.

Thanks!

Swapping out the gauge faces is not a simple DIY process. You'd have to remove the instrument cluster (after first
removing the steering wheel - watch out for the airbag!), then disassemble the instrument cluster, remove the needles, etc.

Sound easy?

That's probably why it's a configurable option.

You could replace the entire clu$ter...


As I pointed out in an earlier post - you CAN send the cluster off to a company which will custom fabricate a new speedometer
gauge face for you and calibrate it. I was quoted ~$600 more than 2 years ago - as I previously stated.


Will it void your warranty? Well, you're messing with the internals of the instruments. What if, later on, you have some issue
with the instrument cluster? Do you believe Porsche will honor warranty claims for a modified instrument cluster? Do you believe
in the Easter Bunny?


S E A R C H the internet - just like any of the rest of us would have to do in order to answer your last question. You know where
you live and can identify resources nearby. If you so choose, you can send your instrument cluster off somewhere else to have
modifications made.

Your call.


You've already stated that "a number of forums that talk about swapping out gauge faces mainly to change color of the speedometer and tach".
What do they say? Are their recommendations not pleasing?



There's really no need to modify the speedometer. You will not find yourself looking at it - I never do - the digital readout is
front & center and easily read at a glance. As for gauge face coloring - pure bling - your money... You're buying a used car.
What's next? Swapping out the seats? Vinyl wrap in "pink pig"?



:eek:
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+1 on the digital speed display. I never look at the other display for speed.
Message Palo Alto Speedometer. I used them in the past and they are knowledgeable.
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OP, I'm going through the exact same process with importing a Macan Turbo to the US from Canada right now! Sent you a PM.
Here was my response in case anyone else could use the help:

The whole thing ended up being simpler than I thought. You need to get a letter of compliance from Porsche NA (Dealer won't do this). That letter will state that the Macan is compliant with US Emissions but needs to change the cluster to be compliant with Federal Safety standards. You need the letter either way for the customs office

There are two forms the customs office will need in addition to the letter - HS-7 (declaration form for DOT) and the EPA 3520-1 form for emissions. You can google either and you'll find the website.

The HS-7 will allow you to import the vehicle (even with that language in the compliance letter) under Box 2B as instrument clusters are a non-issue. The key is you are buying it for personal use (you are not trying to resell as a dealer). You can also clarify that the Digital gauges can be changed to MPH / US metrics automatically anytime. I would have the dealer do that before inspection at the customs office. You can also do that yourself. Takes 2 mins.

I have my Macan in the garage and love it. I have no intention of changing the analog speedo, though I did find a shop that will do it for ~2k all in by creating a custom face / stock face for it.
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I'm happy for you...

My imports were easy too.... but both were US cars....going back

Yours was a TRUE export - Canada to USA...
But still, they do make it easy
Just curious. Did you buy a new or used Porsche from a Canadian dealer? I contacted a Canadian dealer a year ago about ordering a new Macan and was told flat out they couldn’t do it.
They will not sell a new Porsche to a US customer - only used ones...

Hope this helps - even though it's pretty late...
I just completed an import of a Canadian Macan to the USA and my letter from Porsche NA did not have any gauge cluster qualification language. Just a clean "conforms to all FMVCC".

Rohit's guidance is correct on the overall process and if anyone else is planning on importing, happy to help!
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