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Hey everyone,

I am about to put an offer on a used 2017 Macan Turbo w/performance pkg. The car has 16k miles on it and looks to be in great condition. White with all the features i want (Carbon pkg, Adaptive cruise, CarPlay, PASM, etc). Owner already has the car in USA.

Questions:
- Aside from the 2.5% duty tax and paying local USA state tax, is there anything else I need to worry about? (it will be a cash deal, owner has title in hand)
- Is there any major difference between the Canadian and USA Macans? Do the canadian ones have metric units for the speedometer (KM/H instead of MPH) Any other differences?
- Anything in particular I should ask as I make this purchase?

New car warranty will expire 9/2021 and is transferable.

Final sale price is $62,500. Good / bad deal?
Specs below:
Porsche Macan w/Performance pack
- Carrara White Metallic
- Black leather pkg with partial leather seats - Sport exhaust in black
- power steering plus
- SportDesign in black w/o side skirts
- Carbon interior pkg
- Surround view cam
- Tinted LED tailights
- Adaptive cruise with PAS
- 21" 911 Turbo design weels
-Connect plus
-Porsche Intelligent Performance
-Monochrome black exterior pkg
-Premium pkg
 

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Here’s some research I did a year ago. Canada to U.S.

Hey everyone,

I am about to put an offer on a used 2017 Macan Turbo w/performance pkg. The car has 16 miles on it and looks to be in great condition. White with all the features i want (Carbon pkg, Adaptive cruise, CarPlay, PASM, etc). Owner already has the car in USA.

Questions:
- Aside from the 2.5% duty tax and paying local USA state tax, is there anything else I need to worry about? (it will be a cash deal, owner has title in hand)
- Is there any major difference between the Canadian and USA Macans? Do the canadian ones have metric units for the speedometer (KM/H instead of MPH) Any other differences?
- Anything in particular I should ask as I make this purchase?

Thanks in advance
Importing a Vehicle from Canada | ezbordercrossing

I actually contacted a Porsche dealer in Vancouver about buy there for use in Washington State and the reply was something like “We aren’t allowed to” but I don’t remember details now. Foreign exchange rate is in your favor now.
 

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So, the seller lives in Canada & it is licensed/registered in Canada & he just drove it to the USA to sell it?

Be careful. Have a qualified Porsche specialist mechanic (Indy is fine) give it a thorough check... b4 you hand over cash.

It will be worth the (hopefully) small charge to give you piece of mind you are not buying a lemon or the odometer has been tampered with.
Make sure you know how the Warranty will work in the USA. Do a search of the VIN & check the Canadian equivalent of Carfax for history of a crash.

Hopefully some Canadian MF members can advise you on how to check.

You should state the selling price so, others can comment on value for a MY2017.

Update: Found this:
https://www.carfax.ca
 

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The car has not been exported yet, I expect

That means a trip to the border for paperwork and payment

I have done this
Seller signs off and buyer/importer crosses the border to formalize the export/import
 

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First off. THANK YOU for the quick replies. Bad editing manners on my part. The car has 16k miles not 16 miles. Called my local Porsche dealership and verified vin. New car warranty will expire 9/2021 and is transferable. If it was a cpo it wouldn’t be. Carfax is clean but I will obviously drive it to a dealer for verification. Car was priced at 66k USD and I am working a deal at $63k. It would end up being 66k out the door with duty, tax and title.

I assume the analog speedometer will be in KM/H while the digital can be changed to MPH. Any other differences I should be aware of?

Also seller lives / has a summer home in Buffalo, NY which is where the car is located. He claims that as long as the proper CBP paperwork is in place we should be fine to do a title transfer.

Thank you!
 

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First off. THANK YOU for the quick replies. Bad editing manners on my part. The car has 16k miles not 16 miles. Called my local Porsche dealership and verified vin. New car warranty will expire 9/2021 and is transferable. If it was a cpo it wouldn’t be. Carfax is clean but I will obviously drive it to a dealer for verification. Car was priced at 66k USD and I am working a deal at $63k. It would end up being 66k out the door with duty, tax and title.

I assume the analog speedometer will be in KM/H while the digital can be changed to MPH. Any other differences I should be aware of?

Also seller lives / has a summer home in Buffalo, NY which is where the car is located. He claims that as long as the proper CBP paperwork is in place we should be fine to do a title transfer.

Thank you!

A couple of years ago I purchased a Canadian Macan Turbo. First off, it CAN be imported. So much for obtaining facts
on the internet. My vehicle was located at a Porsche dealer and I DID buy it CPO - WITH the warranty FULLY transferable.
Again, so much for facts obtained on the internet. Both Canada and the US are served by PCNA.

The Canadian vehicles are compliant with US emissions and safety requirements.

The DIGITAL readout in the tachometer can be changed from metric to SAE. The speedometer to the left of the tach will
remain in KPH unless you send it off to some specialist who will custom create a face for it, etc. for ~$600.


I paid for:

- PPI

- transport from Canada to my location in the US

- duty

- customs fees (I used a customs brokerage located in Canada, IIRC)

- local vehicle sales tax

- registration


In my state I also had to provide a form from customs indicating it was properly imported. This was one glitch that
required a second trip to the RMV (or maybe it's DMV in your location).

It's a bit complicated, and nothing that cannot be completed with a bit of effort. I'd not done such a thing before
and it wasn't too bad.



I ended up going this route because of my extended Macan search and eventually finding one with all of the options I
wanted, at a price I was willing to pay - and the car hadn't sold by the time I found it online. I'd previously missed out
a couple of times with desirable vehicles disappearing and a stale web listing still showing availability. I'd also found
some with all of the options and in colors - interior or exterior - I really didn't want to live with.

Some colors look great in ads & brochures and are not so great to live with on a day to day basis - month after month,
year after year.



Good luck!!!


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Aha !! Buffalo.... easy to do the border work..
right on your doorstep.

I have imported to Canada from USA - 2 cars

Both cars returned to USA b/c they sell better there ... Canada drops the price a lot for imported US cars

The return to the US was easy.....

takes 1/2 hr at the border doing paperwork
 

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Awesome! Im going to call the CBP tomorrow to figure things out. Any tips on what I should take with me? I assume the steps are as follows:

- Verified VIN with dealership and local DMV. No issues
- Arrive in buffalo and take Macan to dealership for PPI (waiting on estimated cost)
- Sign title and bill of sale
- Send the owner money
- Drive to a local Buffalo DMV to get a temporary intrastate registration / license plate (Do I need to do this? I have standard Illinois license plates that I will be transferring to this car anyway... maybe I just put those on there?)
- Drive car to the CBP and show signed title with bill of sale to do the registration and pay Duty tax
- Then drive home to Illinois and work with the DMV to register/transfer license plates
- Drive to Illinois department of revenue to pay state tax

Final sale price is $62,500. Good / bad deal?

Specs below:
Porsche Macan w/Performance pack
- Carrara White Metallic
- Black leather pkg with partial leather seats
- Sport exhaust in black
- power steering plus
- SportDesign in black w/o side skirts
- Carbon interior pkg
- Surround view cam
- Tinted LED tailights
- Adaptive cruise with PAS
- 21" 911 Turbo design weels
-Connect plus
-Porsche Intelligent Performance
-Monochrome black exterior pkg
-Premium pkg
 

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Porsche warranties are global I believe. One note, resale will take a small hit. Also may not have homelink for garage door but to verify.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk


ETA- I don't see the full build list, but I wish I paid that little for my '17 Turbo (non-PP) a year ago.
 

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Just curious why you think resale will the a hit. Also it should have homelink, right?
Porsche warranties are global I believe. One note, resale will take a small hit. Also may not have homelink for garage door but to verify.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk


ETA- I don't see the full build list, but I wish I paid that little for my '17 Turbo (non-PP) a year ago.
 

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Just curious why you think resale will the a hit. Also it should have homelink, right?
I am watching a guy on another forum selling his US based Canadian 911GT3 import. Price seems lower than other similar spect’d cars. A lot of discussion as to why and there is a view that Canadian imports are less desirable. Also discussion on the GT3 that the only differences in a us and Canadian import is KMs and no homelink on Canadian cars. Not sure if that is specific to the GT3 or the year, 2016, or all Canadian cars. That guy is an active forum member and very knowledgeable and respected.


Edit to add... I never look at the analog speedo.
 

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Appreciate the follow up. You comments make sense. The way I see it, I am getting a better deal up front and therefore should expect the same level of savings to be passed along when I sell the ride in 2-3 years. I just checked the build sheet, and it does show Homelink on there. (attaching build)

I am watching a guy on another forum selling his US based Canadian 911GT3 import. Price seems lower than other similar spect’d cars. A lot of discussion as to why and there is a view that Canadian imports are less desirable. Also discussion on the GT3 that the only differences in a us and Canadian import is KMs and no homelink on Canadian cars. Not sure if that is specific to the GT3 or the year, 2016, or all Canadian cars. That guy is an active forum member and very knowledgeable and respected.


Edit to add... I never look at the analog speedo.
 

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My 2 cars were US bought--- driven in Canada --- and exported back to US for sale.

Yes - the Cdn selling prices at the dealer (for trade-in) was way too low.
Thousands too low.

I can't speak to selling a Cdn car in the US....
but you cpuld always sell it back in Canada
 

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The Macan Turbo I bought from a Canadian Porsche dealer a couple of years ago came equipped with
Homelink - and IT DOES WORK correctly here in the US.


The OP is seeking information - FACTS - about his situation.

Passing along innuendo, hearsay and/or beliefs and hunches really have no place in the discussion.


If someone KNOWS something - first hand experience preferably - then share it with the OP.
Anything else will serve to confuse the issue - and is really not helpful.


(what's next? If the OP selects French as the language for the vehicle to use it'll be Canadian French
rather than Parisian French? As the infomercial used to say, "Stop the insanity!")



The dealer I bought my Macan from, and more specifically the salesman, sells a lot of various Porsche
models to clients in the US. The salesman was very helpful in guiding me through the process. I can
see no reason why a Porsche for the Canadian market would be any less desirable than one for the US
market. I can think of at least one Canadian market BMW example that is/was more valuable than its
US counterpart - the E36 M3.

The GT3 resale example is one second hand illustration. Are people really buying their cars with resale
value as a major consideration?


The digital readout for the vehicle's speed is at the bottom of the center (tachometer) display in the
instrument cluster. A convenient and intuitive location. In order to look at the analog speedometer, one
would have to glance to the left. Even with the Panamera loaner I'm currently driving, I look only at the
digital readout to confirm the vehicle's speed.


OP - good luck. Hope you're able to separate fact from fiction in this thread!



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Awesome! Im going to call the CBP tomorrow to figure things out. Any tips on what I should take with me? I assume the steps are as follows:

- Verified VIN with dealership and local DMV. No issues
- Arrive in buffalo and take Macan to dealership for PPI (waiting on estimated cost)
- Sign title and bill of sale
- Send the owner money
- Drive to a local Buffalo DMV to get a temporary intrastate registration / license plate (Do I need to do this? I have standard Illinois license plates that I will be transferring to this car anyway... maybe I just put those on there?)
- Drive car to the CBP and show signed title with bill of sale to do the registration and pay Duty tax
- Then drive home to Illinois and work with the DMV to register/transfer license plates
- Drive to Illinois department of revenue to pay state tax

Final sale price is $62,500. Good / bad deal?

Specs below:
Porsche Macan w/Performance pack
- Carrara White Metallic
- Black leather pkg with partial leather seats
- Sport exhaust in black
- power steering plus
- SportDesign in black w/o side skirts
- Carbon interior pkg
- Surround view cam
- Tinted LED tailights
- Adaptive cruise with PAS
- 21" 911 Turbo design weels
-Connect plus
-Porsche Intelligent Performance
-Monochrome black exterior pkg
-Premium pkg

You should feel really good about that price. 46% of MSRP is phenomenal. Without a doubt I'd take it to an indy for a PPI.
 

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The Macan Turbo I bought from a Canadian Porsche dealer a couple of years ago came equipped with
Homelink - and IT DOES WORK correctly here in the US.


The OP is seeking information - FACTS - about his situation.

Passing along innuendo, hearsay and/or beliefs and hunches really have no place in the discussion.


If someone KNOWS something - first hand experience preferably - then share it with the OP.
Anything else will serve to confuse the issue - and is really not helpful.


(what's next? If the OP selects French as the language for the vehicle to use it'll be Canadian French
rather than Parisian French? As the infomercial used to say, "Stop the insanity!")



The dealer I bought my Macan from, and more specifically the salesman, sells a lot of various Porsche
models to clients in the US. The salesman was very helpful in guiding me through the process. I can
see no reason why a Porsche for the Canadian market would be any less desirable than one for the US
market. I can think of at least one Canadian market BMW example that is/was more valuable than its
US counterpart - the E36 M3.

The GT3 resale example is one second hand illustration. Are people really buying their cars with resale
value as a major consideration?


The digital readout for the vehicle's speed is at the bottom of the center (tachometer) display in the
instrument cluster. A convenient and intuitive location. In order to look at the analog speedometer, one
would have to glance to the left. Even with the Panamera loaner I'm currently driving, I look only at the
digital readout to confirm the vehicle's speed.


OP - good luck. Hope you're able to separate fact from fiction in this thread!



;)
Just curious. Did you buy a new or used Porsche from a Canadian dealer? I contacted a Canadian dealer a year ago about ordering a new Macan and was told flat out they couldn’t do it.
 

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Is the MSRP in $CAD or $US ?
A really good point. I didn’t do the conversion. Changes the math materially.

The build sheet I pulled shows a $117.8 price but I don’t know if that is Canuck bucks or greenbacks. If CAD, that would be a very light build, but the build sheet is light.

If USD, then it’s closer to 30% of MSRP, which is probably market-ish. There was one high build highs $130k car in Arizona that someone here bought 4-5 months ago and I think that was a great price but don’t remember the discount. I think it was 30%+
 
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