I have got back my Macan Turbo having the engine being removed and exchanged lots of bolts, O-Rings and gaskets.My Macan Turbo from 10/2015 (60.100 km) will go to Porsche tomorrow for repair the gaskets oil leaking. Price will be 8000 € and Porsche is willing to give 4700 € margin.
Will let them take as much pics as possible, engine has to be taken off. Work is supposed to take 5 days. Will get the car back on friday
Danke für die Infos, sehr nützlich! - From the photos I can see my leaks are coming from the same general places, however, it is hard to see but was the oil leaking to the floor? - The reason of course is that Porsche here in the US resists fixing these leaks until they do and I was curious whether they are a little more "locker" over there.I have got back my Macan Turbo having the engine being removed and exchanged lots of bolts, O-Rings and gaskets.
(Took 5 days of repair by a Porsche mechanic with Silver Certificate)
Unfortunately Porsche didn't want to give taken pictures from repair by now (still discussing with them)
After getting back i had strange sounds while driving and at the end the Cardan Drife Shaft bearing in the middle as well was faulty.
Reason for Oil leak:
The 2 Aluminium bolts right and left outer side of the front cover were broken ( I guess over torqued as usual fault or material issue)
So the Quotations were:
Engine removal + Gaskets, O-Rings, Bolts = 8000 €
New Cardan Drive Shaft = 1600€
At the End:
Porsche itself gave 5080€ margin for engine task
Porsche garage gave another margin on their work
Cardan drive shaft was paid fully by insurance (Insurance didn't pay for engine as gaskets were not included in insurance)
At the end from 9600 € i have to pay 2100 €
Well i didn't see any oil leak neither from top of engine nor on the ground. I assume not many drivers look under the car as much.Danke für die Infos, sehr nützlich! - From the photos I can see my leaks are coming from the same general places, however, it is hard to see but was the oil leaking to the floor? - The reason of course is that Porsche here in the US resists fixing these leaks until they do and I was curious whether they are a little more "locker" over there.
Well .... the Posche mechanics just install new available Aluminium bolts and torque them as Porsche specs with torque and degree after.What's the warranty on this TC repair? If you have this leak, pay $8000, is the nightmare over? Or are you still subject to potentially another TC failure down the line?
The Porsche engineers are not stupid when their Spec is torque + Degree. Porsche garage uses a special tool for this.There has been considerable discussion over the cause for the timing chain cover oil leak. The consensus seems to be
some number of the Torx bolts holding the cover to the engine block on some number of engines were over torqued,
stretching them too much. Eventually some number of these Torx bolts may fracture, allowing the TCC to loosen and
If your vehicle's repair job included over torquing the replacement Torx bolts, then it would be reasonable to assume
subsequent fractures in the future.
If the replacement bolts were not over torqued, it would seem reasonable to assume they will not eventually fracture.
The only "expertise" I have on this topic is from reading the forum for a couple of years now. Your assumption seems reasonable to me ... except that if the previous owner is, like me, not a DIYer, it seems to me that he or she may not know whether the leak exists.I'm considering buying a higher mileage Macan right now, so the timing cover leak is very important to understand.
Given the moderators here believe it's not an issue that plagues ALL Macans, is it reasonable to assume that a Macan with > 80K miles that has not had this issue probably won't have it at all (meaning if it had over-torqued bolts the oil leak should have occurred already)?
That is, from my reading, it's my understanding that most (all?) of these leaks are not exactly gushers, and so may not even show up as spots on the ground. Rather, they have to be looked for, with the car on a lift, after the bottom shield has been removed. Or so it seems to me.
Yes, I would get a PPI for sure. But I'm asking if the PPI shows no leaks on such a high mileage vehicle, is it reasonable to believe that particular Macan will not have the leak down the line?I haven't seen any reports of gushers. In the case of my Turbo, the oil was changed at 20K and no leak reported
(I had specifically asked for a check). At 29K+, I changed my own oil & filter and spotted oil on the wiring harness
on the right front of the engine:
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I took several photos (one is shown above) and provided them to the service mgr. at a Porsche dealership, who then
scheduled my vehicle for the warranty work.
If it took almost 10K miles to go from dry to the seepage above, it's apparent the leak is a slow one. True, some people
have reported a wet undertray and/or spots on the garage floor. It is my belief those are the results of a longer term
seepage. Eventually the oil will drip onto the undertray and eventually the undertray will soak through or allow the oil
to collect and drip through the vents.
If one is planning to purchase an 80K mile Macan, then a PPI is a must. It would be a good idea to be present in
order to have a "look see" at things along with the inspector!
When i have purchased my Macan Turbo i even didn't know that an Oil leak exist at all.Yes, I would get a PPI for sure. But I'm asking if the PPI shows no leaks on such a high mileage vehicle, is it reasonable to believe that particular Macan will not have the leak down the line?
The reasoning behind it is this: The leak is caused by over torquing some bolts on the timing chain cover. The over torquing does not appear to be done on ALL Macans produced.It might be not reasonable as well thinking a higher Car mileage will do the trick ... this breaking bolts issue can affect any Macan at any mileage.