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Admin note. New thread at request of a member. The thread Will you be willing to? is for discussing the virus itself, opening of the economy in phases, possible vaccines, hospitalization rates, dead rates, etc. This is more in line with how its affected you personally.

Hey Grim, might I suggest.... a new thread asking how people's lives have been affected by the novel coronavirus. Personally, I missed the gym being closed. The rest of my life has been settled around taking care of the home, as in cooking, any bills and my cars. Now on the other hand, my wife was working up until 3 weeks ago. She never developed any outside hobbies or activities. So now, she's struggling to 'find' a new focus of her energy and time. This is because the life we once knew is gone*. The world will need to recreate itself just like so many of us now need to do.

*-Anyone taping a new series for TV? No. Anyone filming a new movie? No. Restaurants, movie houses, offices, schools, closed venues, contact sports. I could not believe this. It's so bad, ESPN was showing a competition for BEAN BAG TOSSING!!! Now that is hard up. It's a new world order...

Those who still have a job or company and were not seriously impacted by this (yet), might not be able to grasp just how bad it's really getting. I noticed on my unemployment letter, Texas no longer requires one to have a minimum number of job contacts per week or you don't get a check or have to repay everything if they audit you and you can't show any job contacts. My TWC letter says NONE are required. So, I just sit home and collect money. It's collectively not that much meaning if you don't have any savings to suppliment those checks, you will struggle to make ends meet, if you even can.

There's an old adage. Goes something like this: "Those that have, want more. Those that have nothing, just want". My biggest concern is when those with nothing begin to take by force. I can visualize when the 'have nots' will take from the 'haves' just to survive. Self-preservation is the strongest force in ourselves. When pushed into a corner, you will do things you would never consider doing at any other time in your life. Even kill....
 

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I can add to this.

I use instacart for food, have gotten take out once the last two weeks. I'm not going to watch 1987 baseball games. Too boring. Don't care about TV because its mostly garbage, but I did order Netflix and am watching The Travelers as the moment, a Netflix series. I have not been to a bank or any store other than the grocery store for months. Everything is handled electronically ,no need to get cash.

Definitely not bored. I never knew there was so much to fix and do around the house. Then again, got a large garden, grass to mow, etc. Cars mostly sit, don't even need to detail them. I have bought gas ONCE in four months!

I'm going to guess in 2021, to see major increases in health insurances. For those that care about SS, there will be likely no cost of living because inflation is flat. I also expect state taxes to shoot up. However, I did get a rebate for two months of car insurance. Yeah!
 

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Obviously we’re doing a lot more home cooking now (by we I mean me). But my wife is starting to bake. She’s developed a great lemon bar. Next will be a “from scratch“ white cake with butter cream frosting. We’re enjoying new cocktails too. Reading has increased, with “Bonhoeffer“ and “Six Frigates” under way. Afternoon naps after coming in from the heat can be refreshing. And like @grim I’m making more progress on the never ending list of home maintenance tasks. They’re more enjoyable when there’s no hurry.

We’re ramping our cycling back up after 3 weeks off from a bad mountain bike crash. Fortunately, my wife’s shoulder injury is healing fast enough to leave the orthopedic guy shocked —- no PT and no follow up visits. We’re doing resistance training in our basement at a greater frequency than normal for summer. We’ve added hiking to the outdoor mix and find it very enjoyable. I think hiking will be especially nice in winter months. Beware of ticks btw. I found one crawling up my neck toward my scalp after mountain biking. He was seeking cover where not much is too be found, thanks to male pattern baldness.

I’m getting ready to transition to Medicare, so I’m learning that new language. I also enjoyed a car insurance credit.

It seems like this strange season offers the opportunity to become a better version of ourselves because it removes distractions and rushing about. I’m sure it’s more difficult for those still working but still has its pluses.
 

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You mentioned a bad mountain bike accident.... Last month, I visited still another Orthopod for my pain. I mentioned a list of doctors I had seen (think I'm up over 30 back specialists over the years). One of the names was a Dr. Rex Marco from the Houston Medical Center. The reason I remembered him is for his standup 360 degree X-Ray machine. Turns out he was an avid mountain biker. He fell and is now a QUADraplegic. I know. A fluke. But for this to happen to someone who studied most of adult years how to help others is a tragedy.

Be safe out there, cowboy.

Salad tonight with a steak: greens, chunks of cantaloupe, sliced English cucumbers, crumbled feta cheese, pickled cherry tomatoes (Wife has them pickling now) and some dressing of some sort. Add some Texas homemade toast to the fray with a good bottle of red wine..... Ohhhhh, fork drop.
 

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We have both learned to work at home from our home office, was accomplished with little bloodshed ;) Now into week 14 and my Redhead and I are still on speaking terms. Miracles still happen!! Have noticed that our heating bill is up a bit, but fuel bill for the cars is way down. Had to learn new skills like ordering groceries on line and picking up at the store, going for 3 months without haircuts which left me looking like a Q-Tip. Now we are in the learning phase of how to wear bloody uncomfortable masks when we do get to venture out. Got in a little more range time (local gun range, which stayed open, with appropriate restrictions), and the de rigueur honey-do lists for all the little maintenance items around the home. I have found this to be really good practice for our upcoming retirement. Oh yes, and we too got a rebate on car insurance. 🙃
 
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Tonite is an improv night here: orange roughy sautéed in butter, some sort of light pasta to match, and a Greek salad. Will probably open a cold bottle of French Rosé after a hot, humid day doing yard work. Your feast is obviously several cuts above mine!

Thanks for your concern over her injury. Here’s a diagram showing the separated ligaments.

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Surprisingly they don’t do surgery for this any longer. The doc reassured her he even had a college quarterback come back to throw after the same thing. So far so good. Amazing really. We’ve always known there‘s risk in cycling. After 25,000 miles each on the road we’ve never been down. But here’s what happened to one of our extended group 10 days ago.

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He’s a sponsored Iron Man competitor and great bike handler. Riding his triathlon bike down on the aero bars, he hit a bad bridge approach and went down hard at speed. Ouch!!!! Cracked ribs too, but otherwise just a whole lot of road rash.

We’ve had time to reflect on what led to my wife’s crash. We violated a couple of the rules we set for ourselves when taking up MTB’ing. She wants to go back to it slowly, more like hiking on two wheels. Funny side of her crash was I heard her saying “It’s bad, it’s bad, ...” in great pain. As a chiropractor she had a good idea what had happened. As we helped her sit up she said “I might throw up”, then “Is my bike OK”? The guy who first reached her remembered that and sent a link to this tee shirt. We’ve ordered one. She earned it!

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You mentioned a bad mountain bike accident.... Last month, I visited still another Orthopod for my pain. I mentioned a list of doctors I had seen (think I'm up over 30 back specialists over the years). One of the names was a Dr. Rex Marco from the Houston Medical Center. The reason I remembered him is for his standup 360 degree X-Ray machine. Turns out he was an avid mountain biker. He fell and is now a QUADraplegic. I know. A fluke. But for this to happen to someone who studied most of adult years how to help others is a tragedy.

Be safe out there, cowboy.

Salad tonight with a steak: greens, chunks of cantaloupe, sliced English cucumbers, crumbled feta cheese, pickled cherry tomatoes (Wife has them pickling now) and some dressing of some sort. Add some Texas homemade toast to the fray with a good bottle of red wine..... Ohhhhh, fork drop.
Several of my surgeons were good friends with Rex; tough deal.

Hope your back is being somewhat manageable.

Unfortunately- not much downtime for me... just a few weeks during April. Then back at it. Spent the time home-schooling my kiddos. That was interesting....


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It's all good. Been dealt a hand. Play the hand....
 

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Life changed mostly because my kids could not go to school since March and ended their school year from a computer screen at home. We were lucky that when things got bad the weather was already nice and we have a big yard so we spent a lot of time outside. Wife has been working from home and shared that she is working longer hours at home than at the office. My consulting business has been very quiet since most of my clients are in standby mode waiting to see what will happen with their companies and investments. The fact that I cannot travel had a big impact since most of my work is done at the client face to face.
I think the biggest challenge for us was that we could not get our families to visit us. My wife and I both have families overseas and they always come during Spring Break and summer to visit us and spend time with the kids so this year that didn't happen. We also always spend 2 weeks of our summer in Europe so this year that didn't happen.
Other than that we have invested in lots of cooking stuff and have made cooking our family hobby on weekends. Things are kind of back to normal here with gyms open and kids back to some sport activities.
 

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I'm gonna go slightly off-topic here and discuss the reopening of schools in a few weeks. I'm retired and my son is almost 30. So, it's not important to me in the sense I personally am affected by whether a school is open or closed. However, I'm sure some of you are parents or possibly students or know someone that is and are watching this unfold. I'm hearing from everyday people that schools MUST reopen. It's the reasons that shock me. I've heard I need a babysitter. I need a f'g break already! Or, school is a place to put my kid during the day. Or, I can get some work done now. And, for the most part, almost everyone agrees kids need an education. Those kids in school now are going to grow up and make laws that will define how our generation will be cared for or excluded from any support based on our behavior now. Remember the Star Trek episode where the kids killed off all the adults?

I'm not judging any of these comments or reasons. But I am concerned in the health of those kids for whatever the reason they are returning to school. I wrote a note to the Houston Chronicle yesterday. In it, I tried to explain a time back in the late 50's where the NJ public school that I attended was overwhelmed. The workaround was a split day. A morning and then an afternoon session.

It may be burdensome or cumbersome for parents and/or kids for either session. To that, I say tough $hite. But, it allows you to get a 50% class sizes. It gets kids at least 4 hours of classroom study. You can sanitize the rooms between sessions. It needs to be organized and run like a machine. But, it could work.

Your thoughts?
 
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Other than that we have invested in lots of cooking stuff and have made cooking our family hobby on weekends. Things are kind of back to normal here with gyms open and kids back to some sport activities.
Love your pizza oven.

Last Instacart we ordered two chicken breast with bone it. The intention was to grill them. Instead, we got a giant family pack of boneless breasts. What to do? The breasts were huge, looked more like turkey than chicken.

I took out two and froze the rest. I then put them in a tray, added salt to dry brine overnight. Next day cranked up the lump charcoal and put on two different rubs. One was Harry Soos, all purpose BBQ rub. Its a bit spicy, more like Mexican. The other was Amazing Ribs Simon and Garfunkle Rub You know, Rosemary, Basil, Thyme, etc. Got to make a batch ahead of time. Grilled them up and had lunch. Better to have a variety. The green rub was mild in comparison.

There was leftover. Wife took them, sliced the leftovers thin, heated them, and put them in a salad she made. Usually she does that with ribeye but chicken works too. This made two days of supper.
 

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Salad tonight with a steak: greens, chunks of cantaloupe, sliced English cucumbers, crumbled feta cheese, pickled cherry tomatoes (Wife has them pickling now) and some dressing of some sort. Add some Texas homemade toast to the fray with a good bottle of red wine..... Ohhhhh, fork drop.
Oops! Air conditioner took a dump, so we had to call an audible for dinner. After my brother-in-law (retired HVAC) replaced a cheap capacitor, we phoned in a take out order from our favorite family run wood fired pizza place. They actually have help wanted ads in Facebook and on the door. Glad to see they’re an economic survivor. Delicious!

Your tomatoes above remind me I have big organic cherries marinating in the frig in Woodford bourbon and a little simple syrup. What to do with them. Serve with ice cream? Other ideas?
 

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The world, and all college students, survive on pizza! We found a place that is actually better than our labored-over home made pizza!
 

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Hey @///Bruce, I really do cook. I'm a fan of braised meats ranging from osso bucco to pork shanks, beef short ribs, or this past weekend, beef shanks. Here’s the recipe I’ve been using. Red wine braised short ribs. Reducing a whole bottle of cabernet, a quart of bone broth, those spices, veggies, and all that fat and bone marrow creates an incredible, thick sauce and fills the house with aromas. Most people serve it with mashed potatoes but egg noodles work well too.
 
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I'm gonna go slightly off-topic here and discuss the reopening of schools in a few weeks. I'm retired and my son is almost 30. So, it's not important to me in the sense I personally am affected by whether a school is open or closed. However, I'm sure some of you are parents or possibly students or know someone that is and are watching this unfold. I'm hearing from everyday people that schools MUST reopen. It's the reasons that shock me. I've heard I need a babysitter. I need a f'g break already! Or, school is a place to put my kid during the day. Or, I can get some work done now. And, for the most part, almost everyone agrees kids need an education. Those kids in school now are going to grow up and make laws that will define how our generation will be cared for or excluded from any support based on our behavior now. Remember the Star Trek episode where the kids killed off all the adults?

I'm not judging any of these comments or reasons. But I am concerned in the health of those kids for whatever the reason they are returning to school. I wrote a note to the Houston Chronicle yesterday. In it, I tried to explain a time back in the late 50's where the NJ public school that I attended was overwhelmed. The workaround was a split day. A morning and then an afternoon session.

It may be burdensome or cumbersome for parents and/or kids for either session. To that, I say tough $hite. But, it allows you to get a 50% class sizes. It gets kids at least 4 hours of classroom study. You can sanitize the rooms between sessions. It needs to be organized and run like a machine. But, it could work.

Your thoughts?
Seems like there’s a fair amount of slack in a typical school day, so why not cram the critical work into 4 hours? Less classroom time (but more intense) and more homework. Why not? The tougher part might be the teachers’ hours but still manageable. Many management jobs require 10 hour days. Everybody would learn to focus.
 

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I'm gonna go slightly off-topic here and discuss the reopening of schools in a few weeks. I'm retired and my son is almost 30. So, it's not important to me in the sense I personally am affected by whether a school is open or closed. However, I'm sure some of you are parents or possibly students or know someone that is and are watching this unfold. I'm hearing from everyday people that schools MUST reopen. It's the reasons that shock me. I've heard I need a babysitter. I need a f'g break already! Or, school is a place to put my kid during the day. Or, I can get some work done now. And, for the most part, almost everyone agrees kids need an education. Those kids in school now are going to grow up and make laws that will define how our generation will be cared for or excluded from any support based on our behavior now. Remember the Star Trek episode where the kids killed off all the adults?

I'm not judging any of these comments or reasons. But I am concerned in the health of those kids for whatever the reason they are returning to school. I wrote a note to the Houston Chronicle yesterday. In it, I tried to explain a time back in the late 50's where the NJ public school that I attended was overwhelmed. The workaround was a split day. A morning and then an afternoon session.

It may be burdensome or cumbersome for parents and/or kids for either session. To that, I say tough $hite. But, it allows you to get a 50% class sizes. It gets kids at least 4 hours of classroom study. You can sanitize the rooms between sessions. It needs to be organized and run like a machine. But, it could work.

Your thoughts?
My kids go to a private school. Max 14 kids per class. They already got back in all sports BUT are saying they will do a hybrid model where half of the kids go 2 days/week and the other half stays home and 1 day nobody goes. Why? What difference will make 7 or 14 kids when they already authorized 16 to 18 kids practicing basketball inside? In my view it is all about liability. They will follow whatever the Governor says so in case someone gets sick they have their a.. covered. I have no issues with babysitter, I don’t need a break from my kids but I know they won’t get the same education at home than in the school. I have a freshman starting high school. He is going from a kid to an adult. He needs to be in school and learn and interact with other students. No need to start a discussion here but many doctors shared their concerns with having the kids socially isolated. We may protect them from a virus but cause bigger issues on their development.
 
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Seems like there’s a fair amount of slack in a typical school day, so why not cram the critical work into 4 hours? Less classroom time (but more intense) and more homework. Why not? The tougher part might be the teachers’ hours but still manageable. Many management jobs require 10 hour days. Everybody would learn to focus.
The teachers need additional pay for this. They need it anyway. This is a great time to get it. It WILL be tough on the teachers. Absolutely. They will need help. The schools must take care of everything, I mean everything else for the teachers. Their time souly goes into teaching two classes per day. Condensed studies. Kids might have to do homework. They don't have the luxury of doing it during class. There will be no time for that.

Other faculty members must absolutely be in charge of rotating the classes quickly and efficiently. Teachers get a break between sessions while the rooms are sanitized for the next session. Then everything is sanitized for the next school day. No exceptions. Apologize. I'm a PM by trade. This is one option.
 

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Can I start by saying as weird this might sound, COVID-19 has made me reflect more on how my life effects others lives. I feel a measure of control over my actions and subsequent life, but as a citizen in this civilization I feel obligated to do might part in ensuring your safe and healthy existence. COVID-19 has effected my life by helping me assess my "Humanity".
 

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May I suggest The Meditations of the Emperor Marcus Aurelius. I am humbled by life and his thoughts. General Md Dog Mattis carried a copy of his Meditations when he deployed overseas. I went to see my Pain Management doctor two weeks ago. I've known him since 2000. I've had my back juiced by him not less than 42 times until 2015. We use to compare what books we were reading. Last time we talked he was recommended John Adams and was reading on 1776. So, I asked him two weeks ago. I show him my book. He pulls out his cell phone and shows me the pic of my book he was going to buy.... Getting really weird out there....
 

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COVID concerns surely impacted my life . I never was a germaphobe but I have become one . My wife (with a law firm) is working remotely from home . Both she and I are glad that health and safety is the priority.. I am an investor (mostly equities , commodities and bonds) but I don't do much these days . Unlike 2008 where it clearly was a short sell on the market and then a reversal todays market is a but more frightening . I had cashed out a little but but not nearly enough pre COVID . Unfortunately I have to pay the capital gains at a time when everything else has been hit . That Gt3 I was thinking about a few months ago is chilling in ice right now . I am long this market but that might change .

My two other hobbies beside the cars are swimming and animal rescue . Swimming has been scratched . Oh .. do I miss it so. When younger I did triathlons but cycling in Miami is very dangerous and jogging in the 95 degree humid weather is tough. Been walking a lot but that's related to the animal rescue .

Since COVID began what occurred in lockdown was tragic with the animals . Some people who fed them stopped . Others abandoned both cats and even a few dogs . One place is a warehouse industrial area . It is secluded and was desolate in lockdown and suddenly it became filled with abandoned animals . Even wildlife at one point was visible . I work mostly alone but within a group where each has a skill. For most like myself (and my wife who goes to a different region) this is voluntary . There are three trappers , several feeders , and multiple veternarians which range from no cost to very expensive . Often times animals are dumped pregnant , elderly or abused . Sometimes they are injured or ill (but treatable) . Every animal in my home came from a desperate circumstance.
I recently took a call from a trapper who caught a mama cat who gave birth and she found a dead kitten hanging out of her body .It was an emergency C section and the other surviving kitten was fostered . I paid . She survived and now is in a home with the feeder who had called the trapper . I have spent more time and money on animal care than I ever spent on cars but I also have never cried more tears of joy and sorrow simultaneously. COVID has dealt them a huge blow .
 
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