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I joined over 6 or 7 months ago to hang out and learn more about the Macan. I know a lot about cars from having to fix my ride and being the home mechanic. I looked at so many different makes and models in different price ranges, that the Macan is the best value for me in terms of daily use. Plus the GTS will satisfy my need for speed.

I’ve been looking and looking since I joined. It’s hard to decide, well at least for me.100s of Macan GTS in all these different combinations of exterior color, interior color, power train options, sunroof, torque vectoring, and the premium package for the LED headlights; I hope I got them. I noticed that the majority of them that came the closest were all Volcanic Gray. I’ve been driving a metallic gray car for 18 years now it’s time for a change.

Finally found one in Las Vegas that matched what I was looking for but it was red, with red seats. Oh no, red seats. Then it grew on me and started sucking me in. Realized that it’s fun and exciting and not monochrome. So I bought it today. Not happy with the price but but it’s seems to be a fine specimen or copy. It’s a 1 in 500 to me and has everything I wanted. I think the person that built it online had more taste and artistic design than me so I’ll just go along with it. I built a pretty monochrome GTS online that was blue with black interior and I thought it was the bomb.

it’s a 2018 Macan GTS CPO, 37K miles with premium package, sunroof, sport chrono, torque vectoring, air ride, luggage net, leather seats I think, thermal windows, spider wheels. The rest doesn’t matter to me. Has 3 years of warranty combined together. It’s red with black interior but the seat fronts are red with red gauges. It’s fun and exciting, very flamboyant but tasteful.

Next I buy a one way propeller plane ticket to pick it up. I have a couple of free nights at the Orleans, do some gaming, complete the process Then drive it home across the Mojave desert 275 miles. The Mojave has been averaging 110F, so I’ll get a good feel for the car. Interstate 15 is like a E ticket for me. That’s what I bought this car for, the power to climb mountains with ease. I go to Vegas often to bowl, and wanted a more powerful car.

So no more talk from me. Next week I’ll be in debt for one, and join the club. No insult intended, but I wanted to pay cash. It just came up early for me and I had to finance it.

The seats are sort of Bugatti, Ferrari, Maserati to me. Kind of retro back to the 60s of fashionable car interiors when you can order plaid, orange and even velvet.

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I joined over 6 or 7 months ago to hang out and learn more about the Macan. I know a lot about cars from having to fix my ride and being the home mechanic. I looked at so many different makes and models in different price ranges, that the Macan is the best value for me in terms of daily use. Plus the GTS will satisfy my need for speed.

I’ve been looking and looking since I joined. It’s hard to decide, well at least for me.100s of Macan GTS in all these different combinations of exterior color, interior color, power train options, sunroof, torque vectoring, and the premium package for the LED headlights; I hope I got them. I noticed that the majority of them that came the closest were all Volcanic Gray. I’ve been driving a metallic gray car for 18 years now it’s time for a change.

Finally found one in Las Vegas that matched what I was looking for but it was red, with red seats. Oh no, red seats. Then it grew on me and started sucking me in. Realized that it’s fun and exciting and not monochrome. So I bought it today. Not happy with the price but but it’s seems to be a fine specimen or copy. It’s a 1 in 500 to me and has everything I wanted. I think the person that built it online had more taste and artistic design than me so I’ll just go along with it. I built a pretty monochrome GTS online that was blue with black interior and I thought it was the bomb.

it’s a 2018 Macan GTS CPO, 37K miles with premium package, sunroof, sport chrono, torque vectoring, air ride, luggage net, leather seats I think, thermal windows, spider wheels. The rest doesn’t matter to me. Has 3 years of warranty combined together. It’s red with black interior but the seat fronts are red with red gauges. It’s fun and exciting, very flamboyant but tasteful.

Next I buy a one way propeller plane ticket to pick it up. I have a couple of free nights at the Orleans, do some gaming, complete the process Then drive it home across the Mojave desert 275 miles. The Mojave has been averaging 110F, so I’ll get a good feel for the car. Interstate 15 is like a E ticket for me. That’s what I bought this car for, the power to climb mountains with ease. I go to Vegas often to bowl, and wanted a more powerful car.

So no more talk from me. Next week I’ll be in debt for one, and join the club. No insult intended, but I wanted to pay cash. It just came up early for me and I had to finance it.

The seats are sort of Bugatti, Ferrari, Maserati to me. Kind of retro back to the 60s of fashionable car interiors when you can order plaid, orange and even velvet.
Congrats !!! Looks like it was well maintained . It was bought , serviced , traded , and CPO'd at the dealership so they knew the car . Here's the full spec . WP1AG2A53JLB63147 | 2018 Porsche Macan GTS | VIN Analytics
 

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Congratulations on your new Macan!
 

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Congrats !!! Looks like it was well maintained . It was bought , serviced , traded , and CPO'd at the dealership so they knew the car . Here's the full spec . WP1AG2A53JLB63147 | 2018 Porsche Macan GTS | VIN Analytics
It was purchased from them. Turned in exactly 3 years to the date of purchase. Details says they went through the car from head to toe. New pads and rotors, tires which I don’t like. It’s only been serviced like 3 times. It appeared to me to be pretty rock solid. Probably justifies the extra markup on it.

That was cool of you to dig down deeper into the history to confirm my research. It hasn’t had any PDK issues, timing chain cover leak issues, or any issues at all. It wasn’t raced, or abused. Really no issues at all. Very clean record.
 

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It was purchased from them. Turned in exactly 3 years to the date of purchase. Details says they went through the car from head to toe. New pads and rotors, tires which I don’t like. It’s only been serviced like 3 times. It appeared to me to be pretty rock solid. Probably justifies the extra markup on it.

That was cool of you to dig down deeper into the history to confirm my research. It hasn’t had any PDK issues, timing chain cover leak issues, or any issues at all. It wasn’t raced, or abused. Really no issues at all. Very clean record.
I saw the history . Thats actually good news . It appears that the owner followed the scheduled maintenance . The intervals are long . Nothing broke. Plus the described the work done at each interval . 37K is enough to do brakes and tires especially with PTV and summer tires.

The only negative I see are the miles . You have some warranty but it is close to the magical 50K .
Everything you said on the price I agree with . This is just a really tough time to buy .
 

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It’s unlimited for 3 years. One year of regular warranty and 2 years of CPO unlimited miles warranty. I drive 4K a year.

I paid a premium for it. 3K more or even more. But I just came off a retail cycle as a online seller, and made good money off the last 3 months with the stimulus payments. So I’m at the tail end of spending my money.

And I have a 718 Cayman Porsche Driving experience on June 26.
 

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It’s unlimited for 3 years. One year of regular warranty and 2 years of CPO unlimited miles warranty. I drive 4K a year.

I paid a premium for it. 3K more or even more. But I just came off a retail cycle as a online seller, and made good money off the last 3 months with the stimulus payments. So I’m at the tail end of spending my money.

And I have a 718 Cayman Porsche Driving experience on June 26.
Yep .. I saw the date in car fax. You do have three years unless you cross 50K sooner . It all depends how much you drive it. At 50 K the factory warranty will expire . Plus at 50K all cars take a depreciation hit .
 

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I didn't know what the number was, But that explains why I saw a BMW M235i turned in at 49950 miles that I test drove at the BMW dealer and walked away from it. The wouldn't budge on the price.
 

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Amazing ride. I would buy BMW's sales agent a bottle of fine porto for helping you to get a ride which is light years ahead of BMW overall.
 

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Amazing ride. I would buy BMW's sales agent a bottle of fine porto for helping you to get a ride which is light years ahead of BMW overall.
I may do that, it's a good idea. The BMW sales guy was really cool and I had respect for him.
I walked away from 6 BMW test drives over the last 3 years. I didn't care for that over powered 4 cylinder engine with the timing chain issues but the cars had the trunk space. I liked the inline 6 cylinder engine, but the cars had no trunk space. I really liked the M240i cause it was fast, and had that liquid intercooler. But overall in the end, I didn't want to spend that much money on a sedan. My last sedan was a 1984 Jetta GLI ($10.8K new in 1984); loved that car, should of never sold it. I walked by many of the BMW mini SUV class cars and for some sub conscious reason never took the time to look at one for more than a minute. I think it was the price on the windshield and how the car looked that turned me off. They had one cool one on my last visit that was electric off a red light but gas when cruising that was like $60K to start. But I had already test driven 5 Macans by then.

I knew I wanted a Macan but kept looking for cheaper alternatives to it, to get me by while i saved up money. What made up my mind was I couldn't find anything else that can be the one car that I depend on daily that fits my needs such as trunk space for my bowling equipment, and a 6 cylinder engine for more power when driving north across the high desert.
 

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Love the red interior with the red dials. Currently have the red seats on my '18 Macan S but the regular dials. For my (hopefully) August '21 GTS order, I went with the red dials (but black seats) so looking forward to see those in person. Good luck with the new Macan! I'm sure you will enjoy it!
 

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Yep .. I saw the date in car fax. You do have three years unless you cross 50K sooner . It all depends how much you drive it. At 50 K the factory warranty will expire . Plus at 50K all cars take a depreciation hit .
It might be that every manufacturer has a different CPO policy. My wife’s Mercedes came with 2 years of regular warranty plus 1 year of CPO. It was unlimited mileage (not that we needed since the car had very low mileage).
 

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I’m not sure about the warranty. The ad says the car has 6 years of regular warranty, and their selling it as a CPO car. But the sales guy says it has 4 years of regular warranty, and CPO of 2 years. the purchase date is 4/24/2018. I’ll find out when I see the paperwork.
 

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I’m not sure about the warranty. The ad says the car has 6 years of regular warranty, and their selling it as a CPO car. But the sales guy says it has 4 years of regular warranty, and CPO of 2 years. the purchase date is 4/24/2018. I’ll find out when I see the paperwork.
The important question you must ask is when was the 'in service' date. That is when the factory warranty started and add two years onto the end of the four years that was triggered by the 'in service' date.
 

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The important question you must ask is when was the 'in service' date. That is when the factory warranty started and add two years onto the end of the four years that was triggered by the 'in service' date.
I think it was on the car fax report. Off the top of my head it was May xx 2018. I remember thinking the car was traded in almost exactly at the 3 year mark.

So your formula would pin the warranty expiration on May xx 2024 regardless of miles driven. I would think the CPO starts the day I sign for it to make it June xx 2024. But I doubt that.

looks like in May 2024, I need to have under 49K miles on it, and consider keeping it or trading it up. Or drive it for 2 years and make a decision on what to do with it. If I really like the car, order a new version of it.

Well now the forum members have me thinking about my exit strategy. I’m a software engineer by trade, and good ones practice proper design patterns and principals regardless of the language. As I looked at 100s of cars online and in person, I can see the patterns of each car with the date of purchase, miles, warranty, wear and tear. Which cars the dealer bought back to resell, which cars they rejected and auctioned off to the non manufacture franchised market or dealers, it which it was temping to buy one but I’d be on my own with repairs unless I bought a 3rd party warranty. But there really wasn’t any money to be saved purchasing from that market unless I had bad credit and needed a sub prime loan. Well now I see how those cars ended up there.

I would estimate that 5% was X, turned in before crucial depreciation points, 20% was Y, traded in at another dealer past crucial depreciation points, 5% private party, and Z which is the branded dealer rejected the car at it went to auction or CarMax.

I never really considered X, or thought about the principals of X like the principals of getting to 800+ for a credit score. Group X is very detailed oriented, and I can see how they planned far in advance. I would imagine group X being rewarded like comps at a casino. I did buy a group X car.

I’ll probably have to come back and delete this post.
 

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I think crucial depreciation point comes up as soon as you leave the parking lot. :ROFLMAO: The only things which depreciates worse are boats and bitcoin after Elon Musk's tweets.
 

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I think it was on the car fax report. Off the top of my head it was May xx 2018. I remember thinking the car was traded in almost exactly at the 3 year mark.

So your formula would pin the warranty expiration on May xx 2024 regardless of miles driven. I would think the CPO starts the day I sign for it to make it June xx 2024. But I doubt that.

looks like in May 2024, I need to have under 49K miles on it, and consider keeping it or trading it up. Or drive it for 2 years and make a decision on what to do with it. If I really like the car, order a new version of it.

The CPO warranty starts from the vehicle's original in-service date - 6 years, and now unlimited number of miles.

Previously it was the 6-years and up to 100K miles.

If you're thinking about 50K miles, the original warranty, when purchased new, is/was 4 years/50K miles.
 

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I like the interior, red leather matches the guages and the exterior, very unique.
Enjoy the GTS, I have a 2017 GTS still running strong at 60K miles:)
 

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If you're thinking about 50K miles, the original warranty, when purchased new, is/was 4 years/50K miles.
The factory warranty is not identical to the CPO . I dont recall the details but years ago the shop foreman split a few hairs with differences . Whatever remaining factory warranty on the car is valid when he buys a CPO . There are some people who buy a CPO car that is only 2 months old .

The larger issue isn't warranty coverage . !t's mileage depreciation . The more expensive the car the worse it becomes . I have seen 2 year old Ferrari's listed with under 1K miles . In fact I once saw a 17K mi Ferrari that the independent dealership could not sell . People freaked when they saw the miles .

I learned a lot from him . In fact I learned the most when I went to sell my cars . So here's the cliff notes --

The first big depreciation hit comes when a car hits 10K miles . I asked why . He told me he agreed it makes no sense but its a psychological barrier in the used market . The next big and likely the biggest is at 50K . Most cars go off warranty , plus its psychological , but even worse lenders get scared . They dont want to get stuck with a high mile off warranty car that the buyer can't pay both the payment and the big ticket repair . The cars do get sold but its at higher risk on enough levels to drop the price .

Age also can play a factor in depreciation . Have you ever noticed that a two identical cars one model year apart are priced differently . Of course it diminishes with very old cars but if the car is recent the gap is noticeable.I once had a 996 911 with only 1300 miles that was one year old . I got hit in trade and of course I asked why . The car was impeccable and hardly driven . The used manager turned to me and said " it is impeccable and I'd keep it but the truth is the car is beautiful but is a year old . It wont cost the same as a new one. "

His 2018 car is a great car but it is 3 years old and near enough in scope to that 50K miles but it also is an SUV . SUV's are somewhat more mileage lenient but not completely .

Right now .. the entire market is just crazy though . I still feel his car looks ok and he ought not worry.
 
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