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I know quite a few members have either of the above 3, but unsure if there are any members who have any of them installed on a 2022 or 2023 Macan GTS? Does it make a big difference on the 22/23 GTS? Is it worth it?

From my understanding, the 'low end lag' is not 'as apparent' on the 22/23 GTS models, but the PC/SB/RP do a fantastic job at truly making the Macan come alive... but I would still like some input.

Also, looks like Roar Pedal has made a bluetooth version.. (no screen, no wires). Pretty neat!

Im going to purchase one of the above units (unsure if it will be PC, SB or RP) for my incoming GTS, but would love some updated guidance from members. Especially those with 22/23 GTS models.
Most of the threads on this topic are now stale.

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I've been on the fence about getting one for mine. Even in sport+ you have to really commit and press the pedal a long way before it gives it the beans, much more so than in my previous turbo cars (VW Golf R, Audi TTS) so it does take some getting used to.
In comfort mode it's a bit laughable how lazy the accelerator is, but that's a bit moot as I only drive in that mode as I exit my building complex.

Looking forward to your review. Might sway my decision.

--- Edit to add that I ordered the roar pedal, will update in this thread once I install it ---
 

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'22 Macan GTS here.
Installed the Pedal Commander not too long ago and am 100% satisfied. This device solves the terrible accelerator lag, excessive travel or what ever you call it completely and to a highly customizable degree.
This mod is an absolute must. I really disliked having to push the accelerator half way to the floor or more to get going from a stop. Roll on power is now right there without having to make some mental calculation of how much additional pedal you need for the desired result.
The Bluetooth is nice but I found setting "City" +1 to work best for me as do many others who use this device and will likely just leave it in that setting for the duration.
No brainer at $300.
Install was easy using one of those magnetic(30) T handle Torx head screw drivers for the M6X18mm screw. You can get a set of these at Harbor Freight dirt cheat. This tool makes the job a jump shot.
With this tool you can install the screw with one hand and good visualization.
 

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Thank you! Question: Does the PC stay in its desired setting at all times? Meaning, when you start the car, is it already in your preferred setting, or do you have to manually select your fav. setting each time you go for a drive?
Thanks.

Looking forward to hearing from a few others as well and their experience on the 22/23 GTS models.
 

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I personally do not use a Pedal Commander or equivalent device on my 22 GTS.

I prefer to have stock Normal mode for when other people are in the vehicle i.e my significant other.

When I am alone Sport or Sport Plus mode takes out the lag on my 22 GTS, I cannot speak for this setting on and S or Base but the throttle is much more sensitive then previous years. The power band on these engines isn’t until about 3,000rpm either.

I imagine most who really need or want these modules are trying to get their throttles back to carbureted Engine feel.

To each their own.
 

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I imagine most who really need or want these modules are trying to get their throttles back to carbureted Engine feel.
I'm going to show my age with this statement, but I've never driven a carbureted engined car, so I have no idea what that may feel like. I have been driving since 1995. I have however owned many cars (from 0.8 litre 3 cylinder turbo diesel with 40hp to 4.2L naturally aspirated V8s with 340hp and have driven all manner of even larger displacement vehicles.

If I could get the pedal response feel of my previous two turbocharged 4-cylinder VAG vehicles in my GTS it would be cool. I'm not expecting NA levels of response, but if that were to happen I'd be over the moon. For a couple hundred bucks, I'm willing to try. If i don't like it, not a huge loss.
 

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I'm going to show my age with this statement, but I've never driven a carbureted engined car, so I have no idea what that may feel like. I have been driving since 1995. I have however owned many cars (from 0.8 litre 3 cylinder turbo diesel with 40hp to 4.2L naturally aspirated V8s with 340hp and have driven all manner of even larger displacement vehicles.

If I could get the pedal response feel of my previous two turbocharged 4-cylinder VAG vehicles in my GTS it would be cool. I'm not expecting NA levels of response, but if that were to happen I'd be over the moon. For a couple hundred bucks, I'm willing to try. If i don't like it, not a huge loss.
I totally understand.

I would like to point out though, my opinion of course, when the 22 GTS is in Sport or Sport Plus AND above 3,200 RPM in manual mode, the throttle response is really touchy. Most are speaking about from idle touchiness or when in automatic and pressing the accelerator waiting for the throttle threshold to be hit to drop gear or gears. We should all have to post our driving styles along with our makes and models.

Also, I don't think the average Macan driver is above the 3,200 RPM where the power band really starts for an extended period of time unless they are entering the freeway, pushing on the Freeway or alone on a backroad. I personally only drive like this alone and I'm only alone 5-10% of the time.
 

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I totally understand.

I would like to point out though, my opinion of course, when the 22 GTS is in Sport or Sport Plus AND above 3,200 RPM in manual mode, the throttle response is really touchy. Most are speaking about from idle touchiness or when in automatic and pressing the accelerator waiting for the throttle threshold to be hit to drop gear or gears. We should all have to post our driving styles along with our makes and models.

Also, I don't think the average Macan driver is above the 3,200 RPM where the power band really starts for an extended period of time unless they are entering the freeway, pushing on the Freeway or alone on a backroad. I personally only drive like this alone and I'm only alone 5-10% of the time.
Yes I think it's absolutely the <3200rpm band that is causing issue. I'm still within break-in period, so I've been exclusively driving in sport+ and manual mode so I can vary the rpms on demand, but can't exceed 4000rpm. In normal / comfort, the engine is bogged because the transmission shifts at way too early a point.

The non-linearity of the factory throttle pedal mapping below 3k rpm is what I'm hoping to remedy, because as you correctly pointed out, we can't spend much time above 4k rpm in day to day driving before exceeding every posted speed limit.
 

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Yes I think it's absolutely the <3200rpm band that is causing issue. I'm still within break-in period, so I've been exclusively driving in sport+ and manual mode so I can vary the rpms on demand, but can't exceed 4000rpm. In normal / comfort, the engine is bogged because the transmission shifts at way too early a point.

The non-linearity of the factory throttle pedal mapping below 3k rpm is what I'm hoping to remedy, because as you correctly pointed out, we can't spend much time above 4k rpm in day to day driving before exceeding every posted speed limit.
Godspeed on the break-in period. I made it 1,400 miles personally before I opened her up.
 

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Puzzling why the Pedal Commander use is a polarizing topic for some people.
It’s just doesn’t make sense to me. All it’s doing it making the pedal more sensitive (no performance gain or anything) but it’s really not hard to modulate and push it further yourself. It’s not like you have to move the pedal 36" or something. Every single car forum I’ve ever been in, everyone raves about pedal commanders but not once have I ever thought there was an issue to address where I needed one. 🤷‍♂️
 

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It’s just doesn’t make sense to me. All it’s doing it making the pedal more sensitive (no performance gain or anything) but it’s really not hard to modulate and push it further yourself. It’s not like you have to move the pedal 36" or something. Every single car forum I’ve ever been in, everyone raves about pedal commanders but not once have I ever thought there was an issue to address where I needed one. 🤷‍♂️
I have to agree. Press slightly harder - problem solved.
 

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I have to agree. Press slightly harder - problem solved.
It's not just about throttle position. It's about lag and ramp profile. The factory mapping has a built in delay between you pressing the pedal and the car registering that input. Then it ramps up the throttle input to the corresponding level at a given slope. These devices remove that lag so the ramp up starts right away, and they also change the ramp up profile.
 

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^^^^^^^^Exactly, its not just about mashing the pedal harder to make up the factory lag which sucks if you need to do this every single time you accelerate from a stop or a roll.
I would bet strong money that very few if any of the nay sayers here would give the PC back if someone installed it on their Macan free of charge.
Always amazing to hear from the experts who know all about a product that they have no personal experience with.
 

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How many of you are interested in the upcoming Macan EV? I have to imagine if you care about smooth and responsive acceleration, it would be hard/impossible to beat the Macan EV. However you'd also lost whatever other advantages an ICE Macan has.
 
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