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Just my thoughts for anyone in the same situation...
True story: When I was ordering my S I had a budget. I just found this forum as I was ordering and couldn't have been happier about the comraderie, advice, feedback, suggestions and general tone of the forums. Low and behold at the same time there were people talking about all these features I hadn't ordered... All these things that you "Had to have" or "couldn't ever order a car without" So I tossed and I turned and I even had some sleepless nights. I am already at the limit of what I wanted to spend but here are these people and they are on the Internet so they obviously know everything ;) talking about all these things I wasn't going to have :( It was the first time I heard the term button envy. I debated, I built new configs, do I just go $1000 over budget, maybe 2, heck, I am already at this amount I may as well go another 5k because after all, these people are saying you need to have these features... Take your choice, AS, PASM, PTV, 18 way seats, 14 way seats, LCA, ACC, Sports Plus, PSE, etc etc etc...

So I sat down and looked myself in the mirror and made a decision at this point in my life I was going to stick to my budget. I also came to the realization I was buying a Porsche and while those "features" were nice, none of them were essential. Nice to have V need to Have... And you know what, the ONLY time I think about all of the things I listed above are when I come back to this forum. When I am in my Macan (which is an S on 20 inch wheels, No PASM, NO AS, No LCA, No ACC, No PTV mind you) I am NOTHING but happy!!! :x Not once do I think about what I "didn't" order. What I do think is how lucky I am to be driving MY Macan configured just how it is, how fortunate I am and how much I am enjoying myself. Not to mention, not a single person who has given me a thumbs up, waved, come over and asked about the Macan or told me how much they loved it has EVER asked about PASM, AS, LCA, ACC, PTV, PSE, or the # of buttons. They ALWAYS comment how beautiful it is, how enamored they are by the fit and finish, how they love the cockpit and the overall quality of the Macan.

So the point of all of that babbling is to provide some re-assurance for the new guy sitting on the fence about all the acronyms they are hearing and the truth that almost all of us were there and that no matter what Macan you order or how you spec it or how many acronyms it has you are going to absolutely love it! Don't be afraid to stick to a budget, don't feel there is anything you "need" to do. The only thing you NEED to do is A. What is right for you and B. enjoy the heck out of your Macan when you get it...

I know this is a bunch of longwinded babble but if it provides some comfort to someone who is in that agonizing stage so many of us have been in then it was worth it... :)

-Paul
 

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I have been a hovering around this message board for a few days (first post) and this is exactly where I am. So confused and lost. Your post is spot on and appreciated. I have literally submitted 5 or 6 different builds to my SA on my GTS, basically ebbing with the post/argument of the day. Even the side mirror is complicated! Regardless, I have been a member of many different message boards and this is by far the most friendly, insightful and down to earth one I have visited. Kudos to you all.
 

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Paul,

I cannot agree more...I have on order a lowly spec'd GTS, the only options being surround view (for the wife...!) and a few stylistic options - sports mirrors & painted side blades.

I remember the countless hours playing with the Porsche 'confusigator' and reading reviews and comments. A perfect point being the ongoing discussion regarding the GTS ride comfort/suspension.

I am not saying that discussion is bad...it isn't, but one must remember that you are ordering your car for you...Porsche allow such variety so that people can get exactly what they want...I suppose the problem is that people don't really know what they want...but remember we all want a Porsche! We all are possessed by the excitement while we wait for delivery. We all want to get in and drive...anywhere...any anytime, if not all the time.

I have owed prestige vehicles before...dare I say more 'exclusive' and 'expensive' than my Macan GTS. But I have never been as excited !!!!!:D

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I agree 100% with what @Aprilia850 says. And I have one of the most loaded Macan Turbos on the forum. It is quite likely you will be very very happy with whatever you end up with, no matter how loaded or basic.


I would only add that you do your due diligence. Sit in the various seats to see what really fits you. Listen to the stereo options. Compare the basic interior to a Full Leather version (after all it's where you spend most of your time) Take the color samples at the dealer outside and compare in both sun and shade. Compare the ride on different wheels if your dealer has more than one. Compare the costs of replacement. Compare the S vs. the Turbo, and is the value there for you? Were you already picking many of the options on a S so that a Turbo is a better fit (that's what happened to me).


The options list is nearly endless and honestly insane (leather steering column and seat tubs, really?). And they are all not needed to enjoy the car. But many of the options make me enjoy the car much more than I would had I skipped them.


DON'T blindly listen to us. Take our various opinions, which are wide and differing, and weigh them against your needs and wants.


Buy what you can afford and makes you happy. I would also add that if you can't make a decision on an option after truly weighing it, keep in mind it's better (IMHO) to add now vs. regret later. But your opinion may be the exact opposite of that. And that is completely fine.


Good luck, and nearly anyone here will help you with any legitimate question you ask. Except me, I'm a jerk... :D
 

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The reason Porsche offers such a dazzling array of potential options combinations is so each of us can get what we want and need and can afford.

What's right for the next guy (or gal) may not be right for you.

I do enjoy the debates over the different options, and reading opposing viewpoints...usually very insightful and helpful.
 

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Well Done Aprilia & .....

Just my thoughts for anyone in the same situation...
True story: When I was ordering my S I had a budget. I just found this forum as I was ordering and couldn't have been happier about the comraderie, advice, feedback, suggestions and general tone of the forums. Low and behold at the same time there were people talking about all these features I hadn't ordered... All these things that you "Had to have" or "couldn't ever order a car without" So I tossed and I turned and I even had some sleepless nights. I am already at the limit of what I wanted to spend but here are these people and they are on the Internet so they obviously know everything ;) talking about all these things I wasn't going to have :( It was the first time I heard the term button envy. I debated, I built new configs, do I just go $1000 over budget, maybe 2, heck, I am already at this amount I may as well go another 5k because after all, these people are saying you need to have these features... Take your choice, AS, PASM, PTV, 18 way seats, 14 way seats, LCA, ACC, Sports Plus, PSE, etc etc etc...

So I sat down and looked myself in the mirror and made a decision at this point in my life I was going to stick to my budget. I also came to the realization I was buying a Porsche and while those "features" were nice, none of them were essential. Nice to have V need to Have... And you know what, the ONLY time I think about all of the things I listed above are when I come back to this forum. When I am in my Macan (which is an S on 20 inch wheels, No PASM, NO AS, No LCA, No ACC, No PTV mind you) I am NOTHING but happy!!! :x Not once do I think about what I "didn't" order. What I do think is how lucky I am to be driving MY Macan configured just how it is, how fortunate I am and how much I am enjoying myself. Not to mention, not a single person who has given me a thumbs up, waved, come over and asked about the Macan or told me how much they loved it has EVER asked about PASM, AS, LCA, ACC, PTV, PSE, or the # of buttons. They ALWAYS comment how beautiful it is, how enamored they are by the fit and finish, how they love the cockpit and the overall quality of the Macan.

So the point of all of that babbling is to provide some re-assurance for the new guy sitting on the fence about all the acronyms they are hearing and the truth that almost all of us were there and that no matter what Macan you order or how you spec it or how many acronyms it has you are going to absolutely love it! Don't be afraid to stick to a budget, don't feel there is anything you "need" to do. The only thing you NEED to do is A. What is right for you and B. enjoy the heck out of your Macan when you get it...

I know this is a bunch of longwinded babble but if it provides some comfort to someone who is in that agonizing stage so many of us have been in then it was worth it... :)

-Paul
Nicely stated Paul & RJ Mc but no surprise given your previous posts, you fellas have set the bar high for yourselves. I arrived here in early 2014, also had a budget on my 2015 S build & used MF to help me get there.

More recently I've used the forum to assist w/ my 2017 build & the only thing I can add is something Paul stated early in his post. Remember to be appreciative for being able to create a build & keep that in mind when driving & enjoying it. IMO, second guessing yourself after the fact is an exercise in futility.

Off my soapbox, just my .02 & HTH.
 

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I'm a big believer in buying what you can afford plain and simple its not magic there's no secret formula some folks here have really deep pockets and some folks don't.
 

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I agree with everything said above. I'm about to get my first Porsche and was tempted by all the bells and whistles...and had a lot of fun doing configurations.

Then I said...let's look at me, where I drive and how I drive. What's important, What will I really use, what do I really want and so on. And I started down the list.

I think a lot of folks don't sit back and say "how do I drive"...and they get succumbed into buying what is viewed as "the perfect Porsche". Two examples...Bose Radio: I listen to news/finance and comedy....why do I need this? Sports Chrono...I have never floored a car in my life...why do I need launch control or even sports +? LCA: vital..have it on my current car and it's saved me a few times. I have never opened my sun roof in the past 3 years, so why do I need it on a Macan. And so on.

I couldn't even justify the GTS...I think 5.2 seconds is faster than I will ever need and we don't have winding roads and curves where I live in Florida. I don't even need to spend money on paint...white is a great color...and with black/tan standard seats for just $240 or so, I don't need leather to get a non-glare dash. Oh, I do need seat ventilation and 14 way seats for lumbar support. And for $65,100, I have a Macan S that fits me and my driving style....and that's what matters.
 

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@Aprilia850 great thread. I intended on purchasing a used '15 S, and after delving into this forum I ordered a '17 GTS for +$25k more. My build still has plenty of desirable recommendations unchecked even after the extra resources of time, info & money. I'm excited about the GTS, and that has a lot to do with the fact that I eventually made peace with my own decisions. There's certainly a need to balance personal aspiration, spouse, budget, SA advice and forum suggestions to Get YOUR Porsche.
Thanks again to the helpful enthusiasts on here that helped me design mine.
 

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I'm telling, it's this forum. It sucks you in like a black hole.

I'm very much satisfied with my Macan S. Its the greatest thing I ever rode. I guess my only concern off the options game is, the resale value of it after 1-2years later. Will it be enough for me to afford an upgrade to a GTS? Or maybe a 911? Oh gahd! here it is again! The black hole is gaping back!
 

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I agree with all the comments about the config part of the process. I'm pretty sure what I bought might be seen to many as not having this option or that option, but I don't care. I bought this car for me, and I drive it and nobody else does. Where I see value in an option another thinks it is not a good build. Oh well. I really like driving my Macan and thats all there is about it. In the future it may affect resale, but it is hard to put a price on a happy driving experience over trying to stress on going over budget to check some option because someone on the internet said so.
 

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Am I really hearing a voice of reason from racerman? Really? Someone who just bought another porsche and is putting quite a few Benjamin's in it to upgrade this and that and the other thing? Someone who has said if he only had the extra HP of the Turbo on the track he'd be basically unbeatable?

Wow, where are the mods when they are needed. This boy needs a good whippin, say I.

And then he sucks the bday boy @WHT TGR and bad boy RJ into the mix?

No way, no how, say I. My first Macan cost a lowly 60 and change and it was bad ass. Awesome machine on steel springs.

My second was low 80's and it was even badder asser.

My current, 90, and even badder asserer.

So, will you be happy going low budget? H e l l yeah. Might you be happier going high budget? He l l yearerer.

Only you can decide.

Hey 850, sir, how much have you dropped on that second porsche thus far? Just curious how bare bones it is.

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Fair points. Porsche makes a fine base car and options can make it more personal, and to some degree, better. But without this forum, how many early adopters wouldn't have ordered the interior lighting, or the rear ventilation which was so sorely missing its now a stock option. Each of us has their own will power and budget. For me, I was, and remain, ecstatic to have found this forum. So much real world experience and practical advice.
 

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I'm a big believer in buying what you can afford plain and simple its not magic there's no secret formula some folks here have really deep pockets and some folks don't.
...and those between deep and not-deep get the GTS!!

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@MDJAK I neither argue nor disagree with anything you said. Nor do I begrudge anyone who is in your position or RJ, I love it and think it is nothing short of phenomenal. My post was not targeted at that end of the spectrum. It was intended for the other end of the spectrum who come in, read about all the things they "must have" and somehow feel they will not be happy with their own decision. It was to re-assure them that they would, nothing more...
I also don't discredit the value or advice given and taken on the forum at all to @drew138 's point, nothing of the sort and that should not be implied from what I was saying.

To answer your questions:
Yes, I would ABSOLUTELY love to have a Turbo, it was just out of the budget I set for myself when I priced it out but I just turned 42 so plenty of time to "grow" into things :) My point was when I am IN MY Macan I don't miss the fact I don't have a Turbo at all, I love and am grateful for where I am and for anyone new and on the fence I am sure they will be too!

As for the Boxster I am actually doing very well thus far... I am being smart about it and if we are honest it has even LESS in it now than when I bought it ;)
As for $$ spent, I bought the car for under 30, I have about another 20 into it thus for however that is with Rennlist, Panjo, Ebay, negotiating with vendors directly and buying $8000 seats for $3500, a $5k hardtop for $2k, $5k wheels for $2k etc etc etc... In "reality" the car should have been 36 and if I added it up I would probably in for another $35 at list prices on parts and labor. So about 71 so far and a few things still to go, or a 2nd Macan I guess. (Don't confuse the Turbo or GTS being out of my budget with not being able to afford it, they are not always synonymous ;) )

BUT........ Look at this :) How many people can say they have their own bespoke livery for their track car >:D

She is starting to sound pretty nasty too. Much better in person!
 
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