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I'll stick with a 2018 red on black turbo for now... Big engine (3.6L) not to be offered again. Unlimited tuning potential. Great resale value. Very distinct front bumper; cannot be mistaken for any other Macan. 400HP/400TQ stock AWD. Throttle drop!
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I'll stick with a 2018 red on black turbo for now... Big engine (3.6L) not to be offered again. Unlimited tuning potential. Great resale value. Very distinct front bumper; cannot be mistaken for any other Macan. 400HP/400TQ stock AWD. Throttle drop!
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Is it me or does that Audi 2.9tt not sound as mean as the outgoing 3.6 Porsche tt ?? Bragging rights are definitely hurt when one finds and Audi engine in a Porsche turbo. Sharing the platform and the transmission is one thing but it’s a straight Audi now!!
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Is it me or does that Audi 2.9tt not sound as mean as the outgoing 3.6 Porsche tt ?? Bragging rights are definitely hurt when one finds and Audi engine in a Porsche turbo. Sharing the platform and the transmission is one thing but it’s a straight Audi now!!
Have a look at the current Cayenne: Base and hybrid: 3.0L Audi turbo engine. S: 2.9L Audi twin-Turbo engine. Turbo and Turbo S hybrid: 4.0L Audi-Porsche twin-turbo engine.

I’m afraid that the only engines Porsche will keep manufacturing by itself are the flat engines, and I agree with you that having an Audi engine fitted on an Audi-VW platform has a damaging effect on bragging rights.
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Have a look at the current Cayenne: Base and hybrid: 3.0L Audi turbo engine. S: 2.9L Audi twin-Turbo engine. Turbo and Turbo S hybrid: 4.0L Audi-Porsche twin-turbo engine.

I’m afraid that the only engines Porsche will keep manufacturing by itself are the flat engines, and I agree with you that having an Audi engine fitted on an Audi-VW platform has a damaging effect on bragging rights.
Thought I read the V8 was designed and is produced by Porsche for both companies.

But does it really matter today if the buildings the engines are being designed and manufactured in say Audi or Porsche on the outside? Does one really have better engineering and manufacturing capabilities versus the other?
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Macans look good on the track. Unlike that FWD Benz minivan plunging through a turn, lmao.

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Is it me or does that Audi 2.9tt not sound as mean as the outgoing 3.6 Porsche tt ?? Bragging rights are definitely hurt when one finds and Audi engine in a Porsche turbo. Sharing the platform and the transmission is one thing but it’s a straight Audi now!!
It’s not just you. I notice that on the new Pannys. They have that generic small displacement “gastric” synthetic turbo fart sound of so many new turbo cars. The Porsche engines in the Macans I feel did well to avoid that. And I agree. I love the Macan but an Audi platform, an Audi engine and a PDK derived from the Audi unit? Just too far for my liking. I tend to romanticize my cars and that messes with the Macan aura and specialness/uniqueness imo.

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Thought I read the V8 was designed and is produced by Porsche for both companies.

But does it really matter today if the buildings the engines are being designed and manufactured in say Audi or Porsche on the outside? Does one really have better engineering and manufacturing capabilities versus the other?
It does when you’re spending a lot more than Audi money and you want some fundamental “grains” to go with the premium of your Porsche badge.

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It does when you’re spending a lot more than Audi money and you want some fundamental “grains” to go with the premium of your Porsche badge.
What matters most to me is that I'm getting a superior driving experience and nicer interior appointments worth the extra $. Could care less where the parts are sourced from so long as there are not dependability issues.

If I had to do it all over again today I would again be considering the SQ5 alternative. I think VAG has allowed the gap between the two cars to close somewhat. Especially noticeable if you drive an SQ5 with AS and Audi's version of PTV. And in the definition of "superior driving experience" I include tech.

Is the Porsche worth more? Of course. But I ask myself how much more. I expect there will soon be (if there are not already) AS lowering modules allowing improvement to the SQ5's handlng. Would it match the Macan's handling? Would not at all expect that, but based on the huge handling improvement with the lowering module on my current Macan, I would expect a significant improvement to the OEM SQ5 AS.

One of the things that really pushed me to go with the Macan was the availability of the larger engine with all the low end torque, even though I very much like the immediacy of the supercharged engine on the old generation SQ5. In this category and price range I want a car that accelerates absolutely effortlessly. But now the old SQ5 is gone and the new SQ5 engine feels very similar to the GTS engine. The piece we don't know yet is what will the new Turbo power be like with the 2.9? I'm interested in more than just peak horsepower numbers as I don't often take the engine beyond 4500 RPM. Guess we will know fairly soon.

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Thought I read the V8 was designed and is produced by Porsche for both companies.



But does it really matter today if the buildings the engines are being designed and manufactured in say Audi or Porsche on the outside? Does one really have better engineering and manufacturing capabilities versus the other?

Yea it matters. Why doesn’t Audi build engines for the gt3? Or take over building the flat 6? Would fly over well with 911 owners? Why would you think macan owners should be ok with it. If they are ok then why not take it all the way an put a VW engine in there? What a joke!
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