I'm starting a new thread so this discussion doesn't get buried within the other.
My experience is that my Macan reached port in early April. So far, I've received estimates of April 19, May 24 and July 5. Some have apparently been told August 15. These estimates are about six weeks apart, and probably represent the earliest dates, successively, for which the probability is above, I dunno, perhaps ten percent. If July 5 is missed, I would expect August 15 to become official, and so on until the EPA finally certifies.
As I explained last night to my SA, I have two complaints. The first is that Porsche has not produced responsible estimates. Insofar as estimates are uncertain, the proper technique must include a range. Thus, in my case, I should have been told something like "June 1 +/- six weeks." Then I could have decided whether I wanted to go ahead with my order, and planned accordingly. I also pointed out that the cause of the delay has no relevance: it is Porsche's responsibility to consider all factors when it produces an estimate on which others rely.
You will probably find little sympathy from anyone. I know thats hard to hear but its not PCNA's problem. I've been told its the EPA. This has been explained before in another thread. Part of it was the Gov shutdown, "maybe" part because of the diesel scandal? It happens all the time. It happened to the Cayennes. Its not the first time nor will it be the last time. You are not the first and won't be the last. And its not Porsche's fault unless you can explicitly point where PCNA is doing something to intentionally screw anyone over.
My second complaint was that I will no longer be getting the vehicle for which I will pay. I am losing months of use on the front end that I won't gain back on the far end. I'm taking a risk driving a late model BMW that is now out of warranty, because I can't sell it. I've floated a free loan to the dealership in the form of a deposit. I'm spending time writing posts like this. And, worst of all, my Macan will sit unused for months.
Stuff happens. It happens all the time. The Free loan is the cost of doing business within the business model. Don't like it? Buy another car somewhere else. No one forced you to buy this vehicle. But amazingly, they sell many. People willingly give up their money and wait. The BMW risk is your risk. You chose the time to buy, not PCNA. That's your fault. This is nothing compared to the past. How about ordering the car exactly as wanted, get the build date, waiting, then being told "so sorry" you can't have that color, that option, etc. Its happened thousands of times to thousands of people. You are not the first. How about all the Cayenne owners that expected delivery and didn't get it when promised?
Yes, Porsche can and should do something to make amends
Good luck with that. Now imagine the salespeople trying to make a living with nothing to sell. Look at it from their POV. This complaint was made in the EU forums, nothing to sell. Emission testing holding up Macan sales - See Rennteam.
those in my position will be expected to bear all of the burden for a situation we did nothing to create.
I ordered a custom Macan, waited, and was told forget about all the stuff "they" agreed too. Take what you get or wait another 6 months while they got their act together. Did I have to bear the burden for the situation I did nothing to create? Of course I did. Get what you get or wait. Don't like it? Walk.
I understand its frustrating. I can empathize having been told similar things. But don't hold your breath to long. Many people don't understand that PAG is a tiny company building a niche number of cars. Look at the thread on waiting for a part. Do you think its going to get better? I refer people to the TTAC article written back at launch. You should read it. If you were expecting Acura service https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...o-you-no-good/
Read it again and again. Porsche is not Toyota. Now compound the issue with Dieselgate.
Who knows what's going on. Relax. One day you will get a fine CUV and be happy.
Don't let the stress get to you. Be glad your not Nick Murray. Imagine dropping maybe $260K on 911s only to have PCNA buy back two lemons
Your situation is nothing in comparison. I know its frustrating but many are in the same boat. They have in the past and they will continue to be in the future. Read the TTAC article. It might help you out. But try not to get stressed out because its not worth the stress. The EPA will move at a pace the EPA moves.
Expecting free service? You might want to look at it this way. You go to McDonalds. No hamburgers today, only chicken. You get mad. Maybe tomorrow. Waiting for the meet suppliers. Depends upon when the USDA gets around to inspecting the last batch of cows. Now you expect your local McD to compensate you with "free stuff" over something they have no control over? I'd like to see that happen. I'd be mad at VAG executives who defrauded the US.