[81250]

I don't like the loud snapping noise the car makes when on an incline, parking brake disengaged and I try to shift it out of P. I can even feel the shifter's movement being heavy when it comes out of P.

 

[nemo06]

Parking brake engaged also in winter with subzero ( C°) temperatures?

 

[yrralis1]

Why would someone reject the parking brake ? Laziness ?
I almost think its a silly question . It's just so obvious and that's why it took three pages on the thread to even look at it.

 

[yrralis1]

Ooh, major hot button -rant of mine! Apparently most of the cars they sell in Florida come without turn signals.

I once saw a guy backing up on the highway with his turn signal AFTER he missed the exit he desired .

Driving here is all around awful. There are a lot of people who never had a driver's license until they were older adults . So basically it's common to see a middle aged person (with middle aged vision and reflexes) driving with the experience of a juvenile .

 

[ABusLux]

Parking brake engaged also in winter with subzero ( C°) temperatures?

Yes, even in sub-zero temperatures. In Luxembourg, in the Netherlands, in the Swiss Alps, in the French Alps... many times well below zero, and never had any problem.

 

[RJE]

Interesting comment @DenverDucati, as I had always assumed almost everyone uses their parking break and designers would design the transmission pin accordingly. It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows transmission design.

As to parking on a flat surface w/o the parking brake, I am a bit more cautious than you are I think. In my garage, no problem. I would be devastated if some numbskull bumped my car while parked outside and not only dented my bumper, but also sheared the tranny park pin.


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[Macanakey]

I once saw a guy backing up on the highway with his turn signal AFTER he missed the exit he desired .

I've seen that done more than once, myself! My old boss did that in Tampa once. We were all going to lunch & he missed the exit off the Howard Franklin Bridge, so he just pulled over to the side & backed up a couple of hundred yards, still on the side of the bridge. I don't remember if his turn signal was on, though: I was too busy freaking out! No, that's not why I'm no longer there.

Driving here is all around awful. There are a lot of people who never had a driver's license until they were older adults . So basically it's common to see a middle aged person (with middle aged vision and reflexes) driving with the experience of a juvenile .

Maybe, but I think that many people become self-centered jerks behind the wheel. Spousal Unit & I have discussed that often & have come to the conclusion that since there's no direct face-to-face contact when one is behind the wheel, it becomes too easy to become self-centered & disregard basic courtesies. I'm also convinced that a lot of people don't look beyond their front bumpers while they're driving, so they're not watching traffic patterns & can't drive proactively. They're always reacting, which only adds to the rudeness.

Great, now you've started my up rant mode!

 

[Pokerhobo]

Parking brake engaged also in winter with subzero ( C°) temperatures?

The only time I don't use the parking brake is if I just completed a few hot laps at the track (more applicable to my Cayman GTS). Wouldn't want the parking brake to fuse to the rotor. Even on a flat surface, if someone accidentally bumps into your car, would you want it to roll?

 

[Hammerli]

Always. This is one thing I wish Porsche had taken from Audi. In my A6 the parking brake would automatically set when putting the car into park, loved that.

 

[soupy]

Thanks for everyone's responses! PDK does have a parking gear and pawl just like an Automatic and engages when in park. The parking brake activates the rear brakes. Both will hold the car in place but by different methods. I had and M3 DCT that I would always use the parking brake but having the hand brake was just muscle memory. The Macan does not have a hand brake, it has a button. And my wife along with 99% of people who drive an automatic, do not use the parking brake unless on some sort of incline. We haven't taken delivery yet but seems easy enough to engage the parking brake and it disengages automatically.

 

[jimithing]

The button makes me crazy. Every car I've had before had the handbrake. I didn't think it was a big deal with an auto. Good to learn I've been doing it wrong lol

 

[Anthony Chien]

I am used to driving MT, so I always use the parking brake.

 

[Thunder]

I ALWAYS use the parking brake. If you do not, you are in error, no two ways about it.

 

[Louisssss]

I ALWAYS use the parking brake. If you do not, you are in error, no two ways about it.

Uh, no you're not in error if u do not do it.


The car can just be shifted to park on a flat surface.
On a slope, you wouldn't want the weight of the car resting on the transmissions and you wouldn't want to hear a big clunk when u shift out of park, so u should pull the parking brake to hold the car in place instead of the transmission.

 

[Shark]

I'm another one of those that generally don't use the parking brake when parking on a level surface. Been doing that for 40 years and have never damaged a trans as far as I know. My thinking is that I'm more likely to wear out some component in the parking brake mechanism (especially an electric one) versus causing any damage to the transmission.

That being said, causing undue stress on the parking pawl on any automatic transmission by not using the parking brake on an incline is foolish. When I worked in a garage when I was younger interestingly enough every parking pawl related issue I ever saw was caused when a customer was trying to take their car out of Park after using the parking pawl to hold the car on an incline. And it was usually not the parking pawl itself that was broken, but a component of the linkage breaking after the customer tried to force the release of the parking pawl subsequent to putting tremendous pressure on it. Ever notice someone struggling to get their car out of Park after using the parking pawl to hold the car on a hill? That struggle should be a warning sign to anyone that they are doing something potentially very bad.

The other component I've seen fail on several occasions due to this practice are transmission and/or engine mounts. It puts a stress on the mounts that is similar, but the reverse of, trying to do a burnout by revving the engine before putting the transmission into Drive (known to those in my age bracket as a "neutral dump"

 

[Shark]

I'm another one of those that generally don't use the parking brake when parking on a level surface. Been doing that for 40 years and have never damaged a trans as far as I know. My thinking is that I'm more likely to wear out some component in the parking brake mechanism (especially an electric one) versus causing any damage to the transmission.

And I'll take that a step further by pointing out that I do the same with a manual transmission car...just leave it parked in gear (when on a level surface).

 

[bmf]

Always leave my car on the parking brake. Activate that before putting shifting knob to P. When ready to set off put it to D without releasing parking brake and gently press accelerater pedal. It will release the brake automatically if your seat belt is fastened. I'd rather repair a parking brake than the tranny. That's why its there.

 

[DanNYC]

I rarely use the parking brake on any vehicle on a level surface. I have never experienced any problem from doing this, but I have experienced a frozen parking brake on two different vehicles that required having the vehicles towed into the shop. Granted that's not a typical occurrence, but that's why I have learned to use the parking brake only when it's really necessary, on inclines.

 

[Anthony Chien]

Back in the 70s and 80s, when most (if not all) parking brakes are activated via cable, they are vulnerable to get frozen during winter.

The parking brakes on most vehicles (unless they are on the low end) today are hydraulic activated, hence there is no possibility of them getting frozen during winter.

I rarely use the parking brake on any vehicle on a level surface. I have never experienced any problem from doing this, but I have experienced a frozen parking brake on two different vehicles that required having the vehicles towed into the shop. Granted that's not a typical occurrence, but that's why I have learned to use the parking brake only when it's really necessary, on inclines.

 

[DanNYC]

I rarely use the parking brake on any vehicle on a level surface. I have never experienced any problem from doing this, but I have experienced a frozen parking brake on two different vehicles that required having the vehicles towed into the shop. Granted that's not a typical occurrence, but that's why I have learned to use the parking brake only when it's really necessary, on inclines.

When I mentioned "frozen", I was not referring to ambient air temperature. I was referring to corrosion and rust.

Are you saying that the parking brake on the Macan is hydraulically activated? I was under the impression that it's electrically activated.