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I personally like my PASM. The suspension felt tighter and in control in Sport especially on the twisties and more challenging back roads.

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I also paid a visit to the factory last October, and was told the exact same thing by Porsche engineers regarding PASM only setup being preferable to AS setup with regards to sportiness of the vehicle. i.e. the PASM setup is the more track oriented option and the AS option is the comfort/off road option. The AS system just removes too much feel/connectedness from the vehicle. Some people like that and some people don't. However, when I previously mentioned this I was told that I didn't have proof so it didn't count. Waah!
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It has been my understanding that AS and Pano roof each add about an extra 100 pounds.
Quite a while back I had posted the performance numbers/metrics based on a Serbian review of Macan which helped gauge the weight impact of AS+Pano. From the numbers, the net weight of AS + Pano was 70kgs. Macan weighed 1935 kgs with these options instead of 1865 kgs (without these options). 70 kgs = 155 lbs.
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Quite a while back I had posted the performance numbers/metrics based on a Serbian review of Macan which helped gauge the weight impact of AS+Pano. From the numbers, the net weight of AS + Pano was 70kgs. Macan weighed 1935 kgs with these options instead of 1865 kgs (without these options). 70 kgs = 155 lbs.
I bet most of this was the Pano.
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Quite a while back I had posted the performance numbers/metrics based on a Serbian review of Macan which helped gauge the weight impact of AS+Pano. From the numbers, the net weight of AS + Pano was 70kgs. Macan weighed 1935 kgs with these options instead of 1865 kgs (without these options). 70 kgs = 155 lbs.
I bet most of this was the Pano.
Yes the pano adds 154 lbs and the AS 1lb, as of course a certain member does say it's so heavy for us to add to our SUVs which we throw around a freeway exit on the way to work.....btw the measures rigidity of a roof with pano and without is 42hz vs 44hz respectively, yes those 2 Hz leave the car inoperable as it will now fall over on every turn....
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This is like the most silly argument. Who the heck is taking a Macan out to a track. For heaven's sakes buy a SPORTS CAR, not an SUV.

Yeah, the immediate feedback of a spring system vs air suspension is probably better on the track.... surprise surpise, but SPRINGS on the Macan are so high, and you don't get to drop the car like AS on low mode (which makes a very REAL difference in maneauvering this SUV).

If you are some strange individual that bought a Macan to Track it ? Why o why??? Fine, get your steel springs, but please buy lowering links, please upgrade to ceramic brakes, add a roll cage, and rip out the seats while you're at it.

Such a silly silly topic.
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This is like the most silly argument. Who the heck is taking a Macan out to a track. For heaven's sakes buy a SPORTS CAR, not an SUV.

Yeah, the immediate feedback of a spring system vs air suspension is probably better on the track.... surprise surpise, but SPRINGS on the Macan are so high, and you don't get to drop the car like AS on low mode (which makes a very REAL difference in maneauvering this SUV).

If you are some strange individual that bought a Macan to Track it ? Why o why??? Fine, get your steel springs, but please buy lowering links, please upgrade to ceramic brakes, add a roll cage, and rip out the seats while you're at it.

Such a silly silly topic.
Why not ?

Taking your DD to a track to learn how it behaves is a good thing to do.
I wish more people would do that to get the urge to go fast out of their systems, as well as getting a reality check on their drivers skills.

Besides, not everyone has the space/money/dedication to be able to have a dedicated track car. The Macan is a pretty competent tool to take to a track if you run in Groups A/B and just want to have a bit of fun on occasion.

As long as you stay within the limits of the car and yourself, and don't think that you can compete with the GTRs, 458s and Z06s in the higher groups it's all good.
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I only tested steel --- but ordered AS...why?

- I drive aggressively ... I love off-ramps; I raced sports cars and open wheel cars for many years.

- However, I do not drive at 10/10ths of the limit on the road --- not worth it.....maybe 8.5/10ths.

- I needed it lower (for purely aesthetic reasons) --- so figured AS > lowering springs due to warranty, other good stuff (comfort, other adjustments)

To me -- the more 'plush' ride is just a nice to have ... but that's my take. I would probably agree with the instructors on track -- but other than maybe a few laps at a club track day for fun -- no plans to take the Macan hot lapping...and even for those few laps, it wouldn't be 10/10ths in an SUV with no extra safety equipment, better brakes, roll cage, etc.

(my 7.5 cents)
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Why not ?

Taking your DD to a track to learn how it behaves is a good thing to do.
I wish more people would do that to get the urge to go fast out of their systems, as well as getting a reality check on their drivers skills.

Besides, not everyone has the space/money/dedication to be able to have a dedicated track car. The Macan is a pretty competent tool to take to a track if you run in Groups A/B and just want to have a bit of fun on occasion.

As long as you stay within the limits of the car and yourself, and don't think that you can compete with the GTRs, 458s and Z06s in the higher groups it's all good.
Sorry, went back and looked at my post, and realized it sounded kinda harsh.

Of course a Macan could be taken to the track, and fine (heck even recommneded) for anyone to do that. It would be probably a less than 1-2% of the time thing though. So, the other 98-99% of the time is what you should really care about.
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Well, for most of us it doesn't really matter. Good to know what the instructors think though.

However, we are not professional racers and we don't use nearly the full potential/capability of the Macan anywhere. If you do, get a 911/Boxster/Cayman.

So enjoy what you have and Peace!
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