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Hi all. Wife and I are looking at a larger vehicle that can tow a 22' travel trailer and test drove a 2016 Cayenne S (with A/S+PASM) and a 2017 Audi Q7 (no air susp). I was really surprised how well the Q7 drove vs. the Cayenne. The Cayenne's ride was not smooth on the highway. Lots of little vibrations even on smooth asphalt. The acceleration was not smooth either. Felt like each shift of the Tiptronic would induce a little turbo lag and the car would pause momentarily causing a jerkiness in the acceleration. Wife hated it. Maybe I'm spoiled by the Macan's PDK, but the Cayenne was terrible, even with a 420 HP TT V6! On the other hand, the Q7 drove like a bigger Macan, although it rolls a bit more in the corners since it rides higher and is taller. The Audi transmission shifted smoothly and the car accelerated smoothly, although not a quickly as the Cayenne, since it has a 330 HP supercharged V6. The ride was nice and smooth too, with an adaptive suspension, much better than the Cayenne. Both cars were running 20" wheels and the Audi had run-flat tires. Now I realize this is an apples to oranges comparison since the Audi is a new design based on the new Porsche/Audi chassis platform and the Cayenne is being redesigned for MY2018, but wow what a difference. Think we will be buying the Audi in a few weeks!

BTW, the Audi has a MSRP of $70k vs MSRP of $97k (with A/S+PASM) for Cayenne S. Did not consider base Cayenne since it is over a second slower 0-60 than Audi. Adding air suspension to Audi is additional $4k.
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Congrats. It's a nice looking vehicle. I have a neighbor that loves their new Q7.


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The Q7 is a nice fresh design, my buddy just got one delivered and it looks great. I'm curious what Porsche has up its sleeves for the MY2018 Cayenne

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I test drove the Q7 before settling on the Macan, mainly because the dealership was right next door the Land Rover and I had just driven an RRS. I was very impressed by the way it drove given it's size. Unfortunately though, as we don't have kids or dogs, it was just too big for us.
I am 6'6" and set the drivers seat up for my seating position, then set the fore/aft adjustment on the second row so that I had about 1" of leg room to the front row and my partner who is 5'6" jumped in the third row and she still had leg clearance.
Would be a great family mover!
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Looking forward to pics when you get it. I really like the lines of the new Q7, although it's too big a vehicle for me to have as a daily driver. I'm happy to admire one as it drives by, though.

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Looking forward to pics when you get it. I really like the lines of the new Q7, although it's too big a vehicle for me to have as a daily driver. I'm happy to admire one as it drives by, though.
Yeah it is a big vehicle, although it is 2" shorter than the previous gen and 475 lbs lighter! Owners on the Audi forum are saying they get around 20-21 MPG average with 40/60 city/hwy driving. It has a really nice cockpit and clean visuals. I like the new large Vision display screen. Almost don't need the middle popup screen (which you can retract into the dash). Our kids are grown, so we don't need the 3rd row, unless we go visit them. Should be a good all-around vehicle. But I am definitely keeping my Macan!
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Are the Q7 and Cayenne even in the same size category?
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Are the Q7 and Cayenne even in the same size category?

The Q7 is about a foot longer and about the same width. I think it's also a sliver taller.

My neighbor happened to park next to my other neighbors Cayenne yesterday and I was able to visually compare.




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Hi all. Wife and I are looking at a larger vehicle that can tow a 22' travel trailer and test drove a 2016 Cayenne S (with A/S+PASM) and a 2017 Audi Q7 (no air susp). I was really surprised how well the Q7 drove vs. the Cayenne. The Cayenne's ride was not smooth on the highway. Lots of little vibrations even on smooth asphalt. The acceleration was not smooth either. Felt like each shift of the Tiptronic would induce a little turbo lag and the car would pause momentarily causing a jerkiness in the acceleration. Wife hated it. Maybe I'm spoiled by the Macan's PDK, but the Cayenne was terrible, even with a 420 HP TT V6! On the other hand, the Q7 drove like a bigger Macan, although it rolls a bit more in the corners since it rides higher and is taller. The Audi transmission shifted smoothly and the car accelerated smoothly, although not a quickly as the Cayenne, since it has a 330 HP supercharged V6. The ride was nice and smooth too, with an adaptive suspension, much better than the Cayenne. Both cars were running 20" wheels and the Audi had run-flat tires. Now I realize this is an apples to oranges comparison since the Audi is a new design based on the new Porsche/Audi chassis platform and the Cayenne is being redesigned for MY2018, but wow what a difference. Think we will be buying the Audi in a few weeks!

BTW, the Audi has a MSRP of $70k vs MSRP of $97k (with A/S+PASM) for Cayenne S. Did not consider base Cayenne since it is over a second slower 0-60 than Audi. Adding air suspension to Audi is additional $4k.

333hp to be exact and 0-60 in 5.7, not bad for a 3 row vehicle. We are empty nesters but the wife wanted one for all the times when the extra space comes in handy. We drove it on vacation this year and their is a stretch of highway in Texas were the speed limit is 85. I don't like using cruise so there were times I was doing 100 but it felt like 40. Audi did a great job in developing this vehicle....hats off to them!
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